@Redex said in Disclose WHY the height limit was put in place:

@Emmerson-T-Kenny

I'll attempt to prove it in my own way, as trying to pull out spread-sheets and at best poorly constructed internet data would be shabby and be under representative of things at best.

If you're a fan of the series "Phantasy Star" Or "Phantasy Star Online" the lineage of PSO2.. THE SERIES.. You could 100% fairly say that if the exclusion of a height setting is make or break for you, then you've been no true fan of the series at all.

I welcome the changes that have been brought to NA/Global and my suggestion in this thread is that things stay exactly the way that they are under it's current usage of application. (it's not been abused by my regard)

Hypocrite Much? You keep saying the height setting being changed is making or breaking people and that those people aren't true fans yet you yourself are extremely adamant that you would quit the game in a heartbeat if they removed the censorship.

Some "true fan" you turned out to be huh?

@SleeprunnerInc said in Disclose WHY the height limit was put in place:

@Zenny THat's just Redex being Redex.

Don't argue, just ignore and you will save alot of time and effort.

Let him have his opinion and don't provoke it.

Pretty much this. I have had him ignored for awhile but I know since this has become a thing he has actively attacked and tried to get censorship topics locked and users banned. He's one of the few that has managed to escape ban but in all honesty this is good advice, if you add him or anyone else on the ignore list you never have to see a post or thread they make ever again. The ignore function on these forums is actually really great, and its the best alternative then trying to debate/argue with people like that. Highly recommend it.

@Leonkh99 said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

sigh So, apologies to many who believe I might be acting a bit harsh here, but these issues are getting out of hand...

I believe there are many individuals here who need to friggin grow up and a few who need to rethink their life choices. I'm not a Pro-Censorship person coming here to 'rain on your parade' simply cause we are discussing censorship so make no mistake on that part... however I feel some of the attitudes expressed by people here are not exactly gonna be helping our case and if anything make those trying to argue for or against the 'changes' made to the game look like complete idiots. You all know who you are, I shouldn't have to mention names.

Just want to point out the irony in this statement and say that almost all of the forum bans that have happened because of this issue have been against people who are pro-censorship. In actuality its the people who are for the censorship that cant keep themselves under control because they cant accept that they are the vocal minority in this case.

Most anti censorship posters here have been very calm and collected with their posts, even with pro-censorship posters coming in and shouting at them to be banned and calling them the P-Word the anti side has for the most part remained well reserved in maintaining their argument and I personally believe that bothers the pro-censorship posters to the highest degree.

But I digress, I just sit back and watch these days, rarely post myself, I'll leave it to the GM's and let the forum bans speak for themselves. Still cheering for you anti-censorship guys though. Good luck.

@Leonkh99 said in Disclose WHY the height limit was put in place:

@Emmerson-T-Kenny Here: https://forum.pso2.com/topic/5701/slave-weapon-name-change?page=1

That thread was a troll thread, if you look at the OPs account you can see they only ever made 2 posts since its creation and have not been back to these forums since. a GM also found the thread was not genuine and was only created to kick up political debate and thus locked it.

It wasn't a genuine complaint thread, just someone trying to stir the community. It should be disregarded really.

@Nerzarn There are some issues with your argument I feel I need to point, and I'm not trying to be rude but they are issues that someone who's never played on the JP server would bring up. Perhaps I misread your points though so if I did, sorry, but allow me to just clarify some things.

I am already aware of this "ship 2" this does not mean all players. Which can in turn make getting content much more complicated compared to global.

Are you referring to being unable to search for items in the market because of the Japanese language barrier? Because the market place is able to search for items in English text as well. You can easily type in the English name for an item and have results for that item pop up. On top of that the tweaker translates the game in English and that includes market place search results so you should have no problem at all trying to find an item you are looking for.

Yes and we shouldn't be needing to go to such lengths to supply currency for these games. It's not a case of laziness but there's a reason you have to go to such extremes to get the currency to do so. It's because it's not supposed to be paid for outside that region.

Its actually very easy to get premium currency on PSO JP. The best way is to use PSO2 ES which, by the way, the tweaker team also translated into english. It takes maybe 3 button presses on a phone and thats it, you have your AC. There is no complicated issue here, no credit card fraud. Its definitely not that hard and this is coming form some who who only started playing JP server a few months back for the first time. The saying "make a mountain out of a molehill" applies here pretty well.

From your other post:

You need to understand JP speaking players

No you absolutely do not. As mentioned ship 2 is primarily english speakers. But I have played on other ships on the JP server and most of those I have played with have been JP players. Most JP players aren't interested in speaking to you anyway everyone just really wants to play the game. On top of that you'd be surprised how many JP players are willing to speak english to communicate with you if the need arises. But saying "You need to understand JP speaking players" is just a flat out lie. The language barrier on PSO2 JP is not an issue in the slightest and JP players really dont care what language you speak, just so long as you can play the game.

Some of these players are probably established on the west and have to recover some months on JP

A somewhat fair point, but needs to be downplayed a little. Getting to lvl 80 on JP is very easy, to start with JP offers 1mil exp tickets like candy, but aside from that there are certain contents and modes on JP that are strictly for boosting players to lvl 80 fast. You can easily get a class to lvl 80 in the span of 1-3 days. So catching up lvl wise is not an issue. Its faster to lvl in JP then it is on NA for this reason.

Gear wise, JP offers better gear and its pretty cheap on the market. 14 star weapons for example are relatively cheap, ranging from 20k - 50+k for some basic ones, gear which is already better then what NA has so gearing up on PSO2 JP from scratch is relatively quick and easy, and cheap. Now granted 14 star gear is not the best but its still there and available.

In the end everything Aida says is true. I can see where your argument is coming from but it lacks understanding because you haven't actually experienced what JP has to offer. I was doubtful at first to but in the end I find it just to be a better server overall, in every way, and that's why I choose to support it and not the NA server.

@Miraglyth said in ALL THE CONTENT:

@Alevity said in ALL THE CONTENT:

These threads are deliberately bait. And should be deleted. There is no discussion. Do you understand what "No" means?

What "No", exactly...?

This is just like the Ship 4 mess on PC launch, the half-revival of mission pass season 1 we got in season 5, and probably one or two others. In all of these, we ultimately never got any reply.

You might be able to include the one or two topics about the Slave weapon set too, come to think of it. I don't remember if the GMs ever said they would ask about it, I just remember topics being erased. And yet, more than a month later, they mysteriously got renamed. If anything that should be expected to encourage anyone who has complained but not yet been told "No".

I guess if I have a point here, it's that it would be nice if they were to just make a post, announcement or something to say "This and this are not happening, and here's our reasoning". Just repeatedly deleting topics without ever giving an answer really isn't the best way to draw a line under matters players are clearly finding contentious.

And heck, if the reasoning has good merit behind it (rejection by a suitably important country's ratings board for instance) I'm sure that would even persuade some people who at the moment only have "content was removed" to go by.

Just letting you know that user was banned from these forums (And for good reason), so he probably won't be seeing your reply unless he just makes a new account.

That being said, I think SEGA now has a very serious problem on their hands. Their censorship has gotten so out of control that its now starting to get traction among some gaming media tubers. I believe we are at that point where the out of control censorship is now doing harm to the game and unless it stops SEGA faces the threat of seeing a collapse in player activity or at the very least a civil war between pro and anti censorship players, which to be fair we have started to see on these forums already.

Sadly in the end SEGA NA is extremely pro censorship so they will fight tooth in nail to have the ability to rip out and water down content for the NA server. I really hope that people know that there is a better alternative out there to the NA server and that they don't have to stand for the pro censorship motives of SEGA.

But that's just me, I don't really browse actively on these forums anymore because most people here can't be civil. My ignore list on my settings is actually so big it lags my browser a bit when opening it. Granted alot of those rude forum goers I have ignored have been banned (Would love to be able to remove banned users from my ignore list but can't, bug maybe?) so I am glad to see GM's are stepping in to clean up and remove disorderly users from here. That said, I migrated to JP with my alliance long ago and have been as happy as can be, so I've been avoiding this censorship war drama for the most part, but admittedly i was a big activist against it back when I was still on NA, I gave up on the fight after going to JP though but will still show my support for those trying to fight the censorship.

The alternative is out there, all you gotta do is take the first steps.

@Frost-Soar said in Disclose WHY the height limit was put in place: They can only pass up the message to SoJ.

Hmm, questionable. Since day one feedback we've been giving them has not been reaching the dev team at all. Which means one of two things.

1. Feedback is being silenced instead of passed along

2. The dev team has blacklisted the GM's from sending feedback.

Personally i think its number 2 as it seems like even the GM's are getting frustrated with not being able to get through to the dev team at all. You can sorta tell the situation with the whole out of control censorship is frustrating them a bit because they are the ones stuck having to police the topic, and the Dev team is just not being vocal or cooperative with them at all.

Alot of the bans have been targeted at users who have been going into the censorship topics and calling everyone the P-Word. But now I wonder if its just one really.. really pissed off guy who just keeps coming back with a new account to continue where he left off lol.

Quite a few people banned in this topic lol. Glad to see at least the forum mods are finally taking action and removing people from these forums that are coming to these topics and calling everyone the P-Word.