@The-Merfox said in Differences between NGS Global and JP:
@YagyuChan I mean, there's a free VPN that works just fine, so if you know about it there's no sub involved.
rather not risk my account with constantly changing IP addresses.
@Astral-Lettie said in Differences between NGS Global and JP:
Did they really just throw up the middle finger to anyone not from japan? geez. i am so glad i never spent any money on the jp version so no problem ignoring it entirely.
Feel bad for the heavy investors who don't use a VPN.
yeah it got to a point where you gotta pay another sub for a VPN to play Japan now.
@Kofi9867 said in Differences between NGS Global and JP:
@YagyuChan said in Differences between NGS Global and JP:
@Kofi9867 said in Differences between NGS Global and JP:
@YagyuChan said in Differences between NGS Global and JP:
@Kofi9867 said in Differences between NGS Global and JP:
@YagyuChan said in Differences between NGS Global and JP:
We were given no warning and we were never banned before so I am not seeing the issue here besides the ToS which SEGA never enforced till now makes it feel like all the players have been robbed blindly.
Yeah... no, I think this was plenty enough warning back in 2012.
my last part of that quoted statement still stands.
You weren't "Robbed" you did it to yourself. You're not entitled to getting any kind of reparations, because what you were doing were against the TOS anyway, and made the personal choice of spending money.
I feel like you will never understand this so we will terminate this here cause in the end of the day there should have been a Global version of the game in 2012 if they never wanted us to play and they should have fully blocked us from the JP server besides the ToS like they did with SEA.
Oh no I understand fully.
Rules were laid out, you ignored them and assumed that just because the doors were open, you'd walk on through, now that they're being enforced because apparently written rules are beyond you, you're mad because you can't get anything out of it.
You got to play the JP version and spend your $$$, that's YOUR FAULT, not SEGA's.
I bet you're the kind of person that says
"Oh, that person posted their work on the internet, I'll just take it and share it, if they didn't want it shared, they wouldn't have posted it on the internet in the first place"
Or look at signs and clearly ignore the warnings on them.
Another time where my second point is ignored and you jump straight to insulting me.
@Kitsunefox412 said in Differences between NGS Global and JP:
LOL Sega never wanted you to play on the jp server in the first place. And let's say they have blocked ip from outside of the country, people will still manage to connect using VPN, just like they are doing now.
At that point they know it is fully against the rules and if they get banned then they have no leg to stand on. Yet the second part of my point goes unignored by everyone which is there should have been a Global version in the first place.
@Kofi9867 said in Differences between NGS Global and JP:
@YagyuChan said in Differences between NGS Global and JP:
@Kofi9867 said in Differences between NGS Global and JP:
@YagyuChan said in Differences between NGS Global and JP:
We were given no warning and we were never banned before so I am not seeing the issue here besides the ToS which SEGA never enforced till now makes it feel like all the players have been robbed blindly.
Yeah... no, I think this was plenty enough warning back in 2012.
my last part of that quoted statement still stands.
You weren't "Robbed" you did it to yourself. You're not entitled to getting any kind of reparations, because what you were doing were against the TOS anyway, and made the personal choice of spending money.
I feel like you will never understand this so we will terminate this here cause in the end of the day there should have been a Global version of the game in 2012 if they never wanted us to play and they should have fully blocked us from the JP server besides the ToS like they did with SEA.
@Kofi9867 said in Differences between NGS Global and JP:
@YagyuChan said in Differences between NGS Global and JP:
We were given no warning and we were never banned before so I am not seeing the issue here besides the ToS which SEGA never enforced till now makes it feel like all the players have been robbed blindly.
Yeah... no, I think this was plenty enough warning back in 2012.
my last part of that quoted statement still stands.
@Kofi9867 said in Differences between NGS Global and JP:
@YagyuChan said in Differences between NGS Global and JP:
not just that they are also screwing over the people that invested money and time into those accounts and would love to go to NA if they could transfer their account but SEGA won't allow it so people will refuse to leave Japanese servers without a fight or will just stop playing the game entirely feeling cheated.
Then... don't create an account for a game meant for another continent's server and feel that you're entitled to transfer your character off that server just because you made the conscious choice to spend exuberant amounts of money on it.
I'll never understand this mindset. You're on a server you aren't even supposed to be on, the game finally releases globally and people on the other server get banned/IP blocked (And rightfully so) but because the global server isn't what YOU want, the JP servers have to bend over backwards to please you?
say that to the tens or hundreds of thousands of other Western players that did the same and get the same response:
Yes I am aware it is against ToS but it is SEGA's fault for not full out blocking us in the first place or giving a Global version at the start.
We were given no warning and we were never banned before so I am not seeing the issue here besides the ToS which SEGA never enforced till now makes it feel like all the players have been robbed blindly.
@Knight-Raime said in [JP] Unofficial Article Regarding the IP Block Rumors:
I mean it's possible. I was just more or less saying that at least as of this moment i've heard people are still finding ways to access JP servers.
Those people are getting banned for constantly changing their IP unless they paid for a premium VPN.
@Pariah-Chan said in Differences between NGS Global and JP:
That seems like a poor move on their part, it’s pretty much alienating a good portion of their playerbase that was unhappy about how NA ran things.
not just that they are also screwing over the people that invested money and time into those accounts and would love to go to NA if they could transfer their account but SEGA won't allow it so people will refuse to leave Japanese servers without a fight or will just stop playing the game entirely feeling cheated. So far it is believed to be a routing issue or an attempt at an IP block but not enough info to say atm but what I can say is apparently people inside Japan are affected as well. (Yes I am aware it is against ToS but it is SEGA's fault for not full out blocking us in the first place or giving a Global version at the start)
Can confirm that you will get Error 249 if you log in with a non JP IP address into the JP version. I am not going to risk my account since I feel this could also be a mistake since some JP players are reporting that they cannot log into the game. If it comes to it I will probably just quit playing the game if they don't repair this.