@GM-Deynger said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

Hi all, just checking in to let you know that this feedback is being reported. And for those who are against censorship, just know that your opinions are reflected too.

If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time a GM has ever directly referred to the issue being censorship. We might just be getting somewhere.

@Michelle Just by the way, that's not a thing anymore. I want to say in either episode 4 or 5 they dropped that requirement for making new accounts, so the only obstacle now is a japanese captcha.

@Anarchy-Marine I think the main difference here is that anime and games are different beasts. I can't think of a single time where games have been censored and gamers weren't upset about it.

The absence of censorship is even celebrated in some cases. I believe it was when a Senran Kagura game was shown to be censored on the PS4, Nintendo, of all companies, went out and said that the games wouldn't be censored on their platform.

I believe that if word got out to a larger crowd, the support would greatly shift towards anti-censorship. Strangely enough, the Karens rarely care about games and instead tend to target anime, who knows why.

@Liam-J-McAdam Yeah, except the GMs have been less than helpful in matters of censorship, if they even deliver that feedback to the devs like they claim to do. The only way I could see the issue being resolved is if a larger game media outlet covers a story on the censorship in the game.

@Weirdo Thing is, I don't think a compromise is the right answer. There's absolutely no reason for any of the content in the original game to be forcibly hidden from people, or even behind a toggle. If people don't like what the original game has to offer, they shouldn't petition to change these things for everyone, they should do the adult thing and disregard the parts they don't like.

Sega needs to understand what people want from this game. Clearly someone did, when they announced "all the content", they knew what the expectations around the game would be. Whether that was just a lie to get people hyped up, or an honest attempt at bringing over everything that was discarded along the way, we can't know. Either way, I think what's needed is a way to bring more attention to the issue than forum posts, where GMs can pick and choose what gets forwarded to the devs. As things stand, not even the most pro-censorship compromise would get through to Sega.

I completely disagree. Sega shouldn't charge for uncensoring content. It takes time and effort to modify the game to cater to overly-sensible types. Simply translating the game and giving us all the original content takes far less work.

I also see this as something that's as scummy as racketeering, it's causing a problem and charging people for the solution.

@Leonkh99 To be fair, so are the three removed cutscenes from the episode 4 story. You never know what Sega will try to do.

@zubkoa I believe there is absolutely nothing that has to be changed for the cut content to be re-added, personally. None of the bath scenes should be excluded or modified, as most people understand that people in Japan bathe in public, and popular games such as Persona 5 do show it in-game, albeit with less story content happening in there.

There shouldn't be a problem with short characters either, as other games have content some people on these forums would find controversial. Blade & Soul have the Lyn, the childlike race, wearing swimsuits and other skimpier outfits. Tera's Elin have been mentioned many other times in the forums as well. And if we go into more obscure games, Wonderland Online had actual children playable (no 1000 year old lolis), as well as a story illustration featuring a child party member, Xaolan, completely naked, playing in a river with another nude party member. None of this got censored in the NA server, and it supposedly got a T rating.

PSO2 is far from the worst when it comes to content in online games, so there's no reason it should be toned down.

@zubkoa An AO rating would be very harmful to the game, if it were even possible to "ask" for one. First of all, the ESRB rates games according to what they have, not what the devs want the rating to be. So, for PSO2 to get an AO rating, they would need to actually include something that would warrant one.

Even if it did somehow manage an AO rating, streaming platforms like Twitch have a blanket ban on AO games being streamed, so it would harm the game's popularity and advertising opportunities, even if it were optional content. And speaking of advertising, AO-rated games are not allowed to be advertised on store fronts. While I don't know if it affects digital games in any meaningful way, it'd certainly not be a good look for well-known companies like Sega and Microsoft to be advertising something rated AO.

@zubkoa said in The censorship on being short should be removed. Round 2:

As for what the cut content would be rated, I am going with AO to appease the moral police and dismiss "think of the children" with "absolutly not for children."

An M rating is already enough for "absolutely not for children"