@Cakewalk said in October 13 Class Balance Adjustments:
@TEN-SQUARE-3 said in October 13 Class Balance Adjustments:
Those potency numbers dont take into account the mechanics of each tech. With foie thats all you get is the potency of that attack each time, nothing builds and counter dont add anything except extra damage from the counters itself. Ice in the other hand you need to use uncharged techs to build your blot and counters help build this has well, plus has you are using mainly uncharged techs the pp recovery from counters is a lot more important than it is on foie.
Foie is simply an easier tech to use, you dont have to worry about building marks, positioning is less important has your charged foie will land at where you are targeted from nearly anywhere and you are less reliant on counters to restore your pp and keep your dps up. With barta the opposite is true positioning is very important so you can hit the spot you are targeting, and get counters to build both your mark and max your dps plus maintain your pp. Ive spent a lot of time soloing all the different vet enemies and Petta's UQ under various elements and not once did I see one tech outperform another its was always pretty similar.
Here's a video of me using nothing but ice on bossing for 20mins in the new battledia Purple trigger, I'd watch from 6:30 onwards has that when the fight starts to get interesting, at no point am I having trouble doing dps, and on some bosses was getting aggro even though we had a hunter.
I was talking about mining base defense, where AOE is much more important.
If you are focusing on Gigantix, why not multi-weapon a Frostel rod sub launcher? Launcher has more dps even if you sub ranger, you get free pp regen every 30 sec, multi-launch is really good against bujin, and fallen impact is good against downed enemies.
erm ok, well i wouldnt be using either barta or foie for mobbing in TD UQ. Barta is primarily a single target tech, its just a bonus if you mange to catch another target along the way, foie while better still has a pretty small aoe, and you have to take time to charge it, which isnt great when you can have a lot of mobs wanting to rush past you in quick succession.
By far your best tech for mobbing in TD and mobbing in general is uncharged zonde, it has a huge range, always hits were you are target, a big aoe that can hit many mobs, zero charge time, and its the fastest way to build your clot which basically combines uncharged and charged zonde into a single tech for a nice little damage increase. TD mobbing is all about aggroing mobs with uncharged zonde, detonating zonde clod has often has you can, and if you get the dolls packed tightly enough, switch to ots view and gibarta them down. The only time i use gibarta or foie for mobbing is if ive only got that elemnt packed very tightly together. gifoie can be useful but it means putting yourself right in the middle of the pack, and you can get kncoked around a lot using it.
Launcher def does not have more dps has a sub on force. Even the fastest ranger times on bujin are only a few seconds faster than what i can do, and they have both weak bullet and main class bonus in that run, I would have neither, they also facetank a lot of hits against bujin has you can get away with that in that cocoon which you def cant against giga enemies. Id also lose the abilty to inflict elemental downs, which are free dps phases for everyone in the area. Has you can see from the video despite me being the only one doing elemental downs im able to inflict them has fast has what the rest where able to do on physical downs, so that would be a big dps loss. Force also has some many pp options you dont really need to be using weapons that also give pp. Im not using frostel for a few reasons, for one i have a high fixa attack on my evo talis which i would lose, plus all the affixes i have on it, I'd also lose the 20% PB charge time increase, which with how much damage talis PB does especially when i pair it with photon flare, and the extra damage i get from downed enemies from fighter sub, would be a big lose of dps. Plus if i wanted to mainly use a ranger weapon a would play ranger, not use it has a sub on another class.