Honestly, the fight is really not that bad at all now. Back when it was new in the Japanese server, we got hit very hard by it and didn't do nearly the damage we're doing right now in NA. My group probably killed it more than twice as fast as we did there. That goes for a lot of the bosses we have in NA by the way.

The point is that due to the gear that we have it's already kind of "nerfed". To act like it needs more, having played the original fight when it was relevant, feels a bit silly. If you're having trouble, just take some time to gear up, get better acquainted with your class and a at a point, well, get good. Keep practicing at it. It's more than possible as it is right now.

Definitely a topic worth discussion still. I very much want to see change. There's a lot of reason it should be reverted to how it was. I will say the Slave series change was a reasonable enough thing to change (though a bit strange that they would do it so suddenly), but it's probably for the best. Things like that and the weapon "illegal negro", among other weird things I'm sure, are fine to change.

The height thing though, the removal of scenes (all characters involved in the removed scenes were 18), items like smart inner? Not okay. I especially hope things like the "luster" slider which was curiously omitted from the NGS Global trailer (it was shown in JP, but not Global's), despite being mentioned on the Global PSO2 site in text, isn't a tell of things to come.

I would say it's worth keeping a watchful eye on this page to see if it changes : https://pso2.com/news/announcements/pso2ngsannouncement

This is the original text, for context.

Trailer at specific times for comparison:

JP at the moment in question: https://youtu.be/GSJ_q-0ZyDk?t=76

NA at the start of character creation's section: https://youtu.be/WqI_2oXa0cE?t=71

To those who don't think this is important or don't care about censorship, consider the precedent of it all; it's not the one small thing we're bothered by. It's the steady cycle of small things being changed or removed that's upsetting. It will likely one day hurt something you care about as well, if left alone.

Just an fyi here, this scene in the story got changed. Hitsugi is no longer nude. You couldn't see any naughty bits before anyways, but they changed it.

@AndrlCh said in Removing Height Restrictions:

@Archetype-Luna Both images in the first screenshot look like they are from the JPN version, and even then there are too many variables in the location relative to the NPCs to make a good comparison, combined with the fact that two different costumes are being used, thus the possibility of the heels causing a height difference (which is why I went down to Innerwear only for my comparisons).

As for the second, I would like to know what the height of the heels are on that costume, to know how tall the character actually is. That might give an idea of where this seeming height rollover error actually starts.

There's no rollover error. The only things that cause this issue are one of the two sets of either body heights or leg heights being too low. That's 4 values in the character files. As said before, I made something that fixes this issue. Typically, it's not even something that's even in the visible character proportions and instead something from the cast sliders which isn't easily accessible.

If you happen to find another slider that causes it, I'm happy to update PSO2 Salon Tool, but I think that it should be able to up the proportions to the minimum on all those now if required for NA.

I hope that part of that tool is eventually just not required at all though.

@TheMerfox said in Removing Height Restrictions:

@Shadowth117 said in Removing Height Restrictions:

So something else random and odd that I'm not sure has been mentioned. The leg slider specifically, for the 2 vertical center points that control leg height, will cause height errors on loading a char file past a certain point. NA only uses about 3/4 of that scale, just like the regular height slider.

You can actually encounter this without even importing a character from the JP version. The male CAST preset 8 actually has the leg slider set lower than that NA actually allows. So, if you change the height at all, it snaps back in the "correct" minimum value and can't go back.

Here's a gif of this happening.

That's interesting, I think it auto adjusts height on those presets, but I guess not that? Huh.

So something else random and odd that I'm not sure has been mentioned. The leg slider specifically, for the 2 vertical center points that control leg height, will cause height errors on loading a char file past a certain point. NA only uses about 3/4 of that scale, just like the regular height slider.

Admittedly most people probably won't run into this, but you definitely can for goofy or cast characters. The reason it's even here is because past that point, it will take 1 cm off the player height. But why do this at any height rather than if the player is close to the threshold? This doesn't make sense.

I've updated PSO2 Salon Tool to accommodate for this regardless, so it can fix chars to this minimum as well as the other one for body height, but this not being directly tied to height bothers me a lot.

@TheMerfox said in Removing Height Restrictions:

I prefer they keep the height restrictions. My 13 year old niece is playing now, rather not her mother catches her playing while a nearby player who is chair dancing has the appearance of a 11 year old girl, aka no chest, and no hips that should make that string bikini shes wearing impossible to stay on.

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't let a 13 year old play a game where these kinds of "outfits" are commonplace, no matter if they're on an avatar who looks 11 or 21

The game's rating is M, by the way. A 13 year old objectively shouldn't be playing this.

I guess 13 year olds shouldn't be allowed at the beach. Actually, I guess they shouldn't be allowed outside in general.

Edit: Also, while it was M in beta, you should really check the homepage and scroll down now:

@Zero-Sonico-X said in Random game freezes/super low FPS drop (0.00001 fps) to the point of no return (Xbox One X):

Does anyone even still play on Xbox One X? Have the random freezes gone away for most or does it still persist? The only discussion of problems I see in this forum nowadays is PC version. Just curious on if anyone ever found a solution for reducing/stopping the game freezing on the Xbox One X to be specific.

if they're still there, I'd say they're unlikely to change anytime soon. It seems like their priorities are on New Genesis with a smaller crew maybe handling general NA fixes. I wouldn't expect much to happen honestly, but you can submit a ticket and hope they see something.

As far as someone "finding a solution", the xbox isn't exactly open enough of a platform to really do something directly about it from the consumer side.

@MoldyAsp33874 said in Removing Height Restrictions:

@ZorokiHanuke said in Removing Height Restrictions:

@SLthePyro Props for the post. Well done.

The universe series also allowed players to make very child like characters, and the game even added some short ones as story NPCs (check what happened with Tonnio and Lina in Portable 2 for a gasp worthy moment). So Sega is no stranger to child like characters, nor is a stranger to doing adult like things with those characters, which is why I'm even more puzzled at these uncalled restrictions.

In Phantasy Star Zero- Sarisa is molested by tentacles. She very much looks like a child- she very much is one in age. The game is Rated E so of course they're not complete strangers..
Like SLthePyro said- we really do deserve some transparency with the Devs- we need to know the reason for this change and we need to know if they have already planned to remove certain things from the game like the mini-suits that are designed for those who want the ultimate extreme in childlike appearance. There is never just pre-launch censorship for a game that will be regularly releasing content it's entire life and expansions- and that's just the last you see it. If they truly feel the height change was necessary then they WILL change other things down the line. We won't get a lot that we should get and the people who already put money into the game should be concerned about this. Sadly- NA is much more conditioned to burning their money on that which does not deserve support than JP is.. But even with the whales of NA- the game will not sustain itself with devs just blindly throwing content without responding to a single concern(of which there is PLENTY...) of it's players.

One of the youth suits is actually ingame. However, it's normal height instead of the child height. So there's that.

Endless and Divide are rather neat, but don't fit into the category I'm suggesting. Endless in particular is a more realized version of the randomization aspect of the game for sure and I like that. Divide, I haven't tried to be able to comment, but it's not the same sort of quest from what I've seen.

As far as story justification,they could do anything. It'd only really need as much explanation as challenge mode or battle to fit, maybe less with those around. Just do something like: "This mission is a VR training meant to simulate a combat encounter against an onslaught of particularly intelligent foes! In order to better understand the capabilities of our foes, ARKS operatives will either be assigned an operative role or an enemy role to combat each other."