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@Archetype-Luna said in Removing Height Restrictions:
I would like to take this time to remind people that if you see someone who is likely trying to incite heated responses that it may be better to just report them and ignore them. Their goal is likely to get the thread closed down due to uncivil discussion. So it is better to keep a cool head and focus on civil discussion that remains on topic.
@ApollosAmour said in Potential Reason for the Game's Censorship:
@Miraglyth That's a good point, given that all of this is speculation to begin with. There's no real evidence as to why they changed anything. I don't necessarily think it's the easiest thing for them to respond to, but it could put some stuff to rest. But I also feel like most of it is so trivial that we could survive without knowing either.
Yet the shit gets flung around like a reces monkey on holiday... Its barbaric and not only that luna treats this subject like idolizing a god... Censorship in all its forms needs to stop being discussed period... As you said "I also feel like most of it is so trivial that we could survive without knowing either.
@Praxithea-Von said in Removing Height Restrictions:
@PhantasyStar719 Man, how many threads you gonna post that dumb Gif in? I guess it speaks for itself now huh?
@RainGnyu said in Please lock thread topic (https://forum.pso2.com/topic/7147/potential-reason-for-the-game-s-censorship/59):
@Archetype-Luna said in Please lock thread topic (https://forum.pso2.com/topic/7147/potential-reason-for-the-game-s-censorship/59):
The locked threads were not due to the subject, but due to discussions being heated. So there shouldn't be any need for locking threads as long as the discussion is civil.
The discussion is not going to be civil because Your personal experience is threatening my personal experience if the Sega removes the censorship. Which is the purpose of this thread to incite community protest petition.
EXACTLY
@Archetype-Luna said in Please lock thread topic (https://forum.pso2.com/topic/7147/potential-reason-for-the-game-s-censorship/59):
The locked threads were not due to the subject, but due to discussions being heated. So there shouldn't be any need for locking threads as long as the discussion is civil.
No one asked you for an opinion!
@Lintaur said in Removing Height Restrictions:
@XenoBladeX37645 said in Removing Height Restrictions:
@PhantasyStar719 said in Removing Height Restrictions:
@Archetype-Luna said in Removing Height Restrictions:
@Loona said in Removing Height Restrictions:
@Archetype-Luna said in Removing Height Restrictions:
@Loona Like I said before, defeatism never accomplished anything. I choose to believe that there is a chance so I will keep on trying.
It isn't defeatism when you can join discords that have posted datamines storywise for Global. They pretty much have everything done already.
The censorship doesn't only affect the story though. It is far more reaching than that. It is also a potential obstacle towards something more akin to a unified service. Furthermore, not everyone goes on said discord servers and so on.
Not wanting to try to get changes happened because you don't believe it is possible is defeatism.
And there you go again...
Shoving your views down our throats until we submit.. I retract my statements.. Your worse than any pedophile
Arent you doing the very thing youre acussing others of? Stating your opinion makes you worse than a pedo in your eyes? Log off of the internet and step outside please. Because you grasp on reality is beyond messed up
Glad to see we're still at this point. Xeno just report these types.
The less toxic people we have on the forums, the better.
Last i checked your not exempted from the reports my dear... so nice try 
@RainGnyu said in Potential Reason for the Game's Censorship:
@Miraglyth said in Potential Reason for the Game's Censorship:
Didn't really pay much attention to previous topics. Read the first post of this topic and many of the responses make me feel sorry for Leonkh99 and Archetype Luna.
Before continuing, I should say I've completed the portion of Episode 4's story quests we have so far (up to chapter 4). I've watched the deleted scene and to me it kind of builds on character relationships. It's not in ways that couldn't be assumed anyway, but considering Episodes 1-3 often felt like they were skipping pages of character interaction I wonder if I'm just used to gaps in writing to the point that removing a scene doesn't feel out of place?
I haven't seen the other two linked scenes because I hear they contain spoilers so I can't consider whether they've got more development or are as likely to be removed.
@PhantasyStar719 said in Potential Reason for the Game's Censorship:
I truly think the subject matter is just getting into distorted noise at this point they continually are spamming new threads trying to keep this "false news" alive.
At least one scene has been removed, correct? That would mean it's not false news (fake news?). Calling it such not only harms your credibility but also that of anything that is correctly called false/fake news.
@PhantasyStar719 said in Potential Reason for the Game's Censorship:
Rain id suggest going to Lunas other threads in the suggestion section and request they get closed too
To me this just comes across as targeted harassment.
It feels like some people here have concluded that the GMs are looking for excuses to close certain topics, and are only too happy to incite drama and uncivil behaviour because they want what would otherwise be a civil discussion to be buried and never spoken of. Which, amusingly, is a malicious form of censorship.
Ultimately we know this scene has been removed. This topic isn't a protest against that, and doesn't actively seek to change it. Leonkh99 has instead sought to provide possible explanations as to why the removal happened, most of which if true would not provide any avenue to challenge the removal but would instead help users understand and potentially accept it.
To me this seems a perfectly responsible and reasonable approach to take. If the GMs or another representative of localisation were to speak up and give a meritorious reason that this scene and potentially others had to be removed, that would provide the substantiation some posters in this topic seek (or have already claimed to exist) to draw a line under the matter in a way that hopefully everyone could accept and move on from.
Wouldn't that be for the best?
I am sorry but I strongly disagree because Luna approach to issues is to incite change through forum bandwagon. It started with SG, then hight and now censors content makes me wonder why so much effort. I understand the pro’s and con’s of these discussions but no solution is accepted even when both side benefits. Luna has a tendency to negate any fair solution that does not fall in his/her agenda and perception. I also have noticed that If the opinions of other perceptions of the censors content is with Sega, Luna tends mock their perspective with content that wasn’t censored as if he/she has a credit masters degree in philosophy and psychology in mental awareness just to strengthen his argument. Kind-of-reminds me of this........ https://youtu.be/hIdsjNGCGz4
If you didn’t know Luna! You not Will!
Thanks for having my back ole friend 
@XenoBladeX37645 said in Removing Height Restrictions:
@PhantasyStar719 said in Removing Height Restrictions:
@Archetype-Luna said in Removing Height Restrictions:
@Loona said in Removing Height Restrictions:
@Archetype-Luna said in Removing Height Restrictions:
@Loona Like I said before, defeatism never accomplished anything. I choose to believe that there is a chance so I will keep on trying.
It isn't defeatism when you can join discords that have posted datamines storywise for Global. They pretty much have everything done already.
The censorship doesn't only affect the story though. It is far more reaching than that. It is also a potential obstacle towards something more akin to a unified service. Furthermore, not everyone goes on said discord servers and so on.
Not wanting to try to get changes happened because you don't believe it is possible is defeatism.
And there you go again...
Shoving your views down our throats until we submit.. I retract my statements.. Your worse than any pedophile
Arent you doing the very thing youre acussing others of? Stating your opinion makes you worse than a pedo in your eyes? Log off of the internet and step outside please. Because you grasp on reality is beyond messed up
Yet we should let the assholes win?.... This game is done for if we give luna what they want.. Censorship has no right to be discussed... It is a subject that will always spark anger... Let it die already
@Miraglyth said in Potential Reason for the Game's Censorship:
Didn't really pay much attention to previous topics. Read the first post of this topic and many of the responses make me feel sorry for Leonkh99 and Archetype Luna.
Before continuing, I should say I've completed the portion of Episode 4's story quests we have so far (up to chapter 4). I've watched the deleted scene and to me it kind of builds on character relationships. It's not in ways that couldn't be assumed anyway, but considering Episodes 1-3 often felt like they were skipping pages of character interaction I wonder if I'm just used to gaps in writing to the point that removing a scene doesn't feel out of place?
I haven't seen the other two linked scenes because I hear they contain spoilers so I can't consider whether they've got more development or are as likely to be removed.
@PhantasyStar719 said in Potential Reason for the Game's Censorship:
I truly think the subject matter is just getting into distorted noise at this point they continually are spamming new threads trying to keep this "false news" alive.
At least one scene has been removed, correct? That would mean it's not false news (fake news?). Calling it such not only harms your credibility but also that of anything that is correctly called false/fake news.
@PhantasyStar719 said in Potential Reason for the Game's Censorship:
Rain id suggest going to Lunas other threads in the suggestion section and request they get closed too
To me this just comes across as targeted harassment.
It feels like some people here have concluded that the GMs are looking for excuses to close certain topics, and are only too happy to incite drama and uncivil behaviour because they want what would otherwise be a civil discussion to be buried and never spoken of. Which, amusingly, is a malicious form of censorship.
Ultimately we know this scene has been removed. This topic isn't a protest against that, and doesn't actively seek to change it. Leonkh99 has instead sought to provide possible explanations as to why the removal happened, most of which if true would not provide any avenue to challenge the removal but would instead help users understand and potentially accept it.
To me this seems a perfectly responsible and reasonable approach to take. If the GMs or another representative of localisation were to speak up and give a meritorious reason that this scene and potentially others had to be removed, that would provide the substantiation some posters in this topic seek (or have already claimed to exist) to draw a line under the matter in a way that hopefully everyone could accept and move on from.
Wouldn't that be for the best?
@Zenny said in Potential Reason for the Game's Censorship:
@Ephemiel lol you need to chill out. You can enjoy a game, continue to play and still care or dislike that it is censored. What you are saying just isn't true at all. I care the game is censored and I'm still enjoying the game overall already proving what you said is completely false. All I'm doing is putting up with it because ultimately SEGA is the only one who can make changes.
Barely anyone searches for censorship changes before they start playing a game. Like I said I do not automatically assume a game will be censored. Obviously after finding out people may or may not care as some have demonstrated. To say no one is a far stretch.
Like Luna said, as soon as the censorship starts it doesn't end. It isn't even really just about height or some scenes. It's about overall censorship targeting all areas of the game which will progressively get worse.
Let it get worse.... Just know i hope it gets so bad that we finally can put this subject to rest, once and for all!.. Come forward brothers and sisters... Show no mercy
@I-l-B-L-I-S3416 said in From a fun game to a Cash Grab:
@PhantasyStar719 ahhhhh okay because it's replied to me because I was tagged
@I-l-B-L-I-S3416 You get tagged if the post tagged you first kind of a multi reply feature.
@I-l-B-L-I-S3416 said in From a fun game to a Cash Grab:
@PhantasyStar719 is it really beating a dead horse? Only thing I see in this thread is "PvP sucks" there more than PvP that has issues. Whole point of forums is to talk about those issues not meme it.
My meme was the idiot trying to give you the business given they are proving how much of an ass they want to be but fall short. I actually agree with you
@DDDDLife said in From a fun game to a Cash Grab:
A cash grab?, Uh..., * Ahem* , Well then, If that is the case, This "CASH GRAB as you so call it would not allow all of the content that is being implemented. Sure, I may not be able to sell items in the personal shop, but it's really not an issue for me. Why? - because - IT"S A GAME!. I don't know about you, But I have gotten several personal shop tickets already, Too many to count. Mission pass is a great thing , I have gotten tons of avatar pieces tokens and I usually get the same amount of SG's I invest in it, It's really a great a thing.
The market, Eh - It's always something that you take a gamble on something, I just can't believe that you are actually worried about undercutting someone, Why is that even an issue to begin with? I'll admit, I bought some items that I found were super cheap , only to later find out that those same items you will get anyway from your collection sheets. xD Am I upset about it? why should I be, should I ? At this point, if you hate this so much, Why are you here anyway? Nothing is going to be fixed based on your own whims, either love it , Or leave it. Your choice.
@Archetype-Luna said in Removing Height Restrictions:
@ZorokiHanuke My guess is that there is a sub team within the Phantasy Star Crew managing the NA servers while the rest of development team is working on NGS. This may explain some of the differences. I'd imagine YSOK has other things on his plate, like NGS development and finishing up EP6, than to focus on the global server.
It is possible that relatively inexperienced members of the Phantasy Star Crew are handling the global server management and they may just need some time to adjust or break out of their shell.
Honestly, there are a lot of possibilities of what could be going on behind the scenes. Hard to really say what is going on in the back.
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