If they can’t turn NGS around or fix what they broke in PSO2 at least, that’s it for SEGA for me. I mean on a personal level, Sonic was my hero as a kid and their last good game wasn’t even made by them, a fan had to remind them what Sonic used to be. If they’re that out of touch with their own freaking mascot, what hope can I have for Phantasy Star?
Um.....They've been pretty much been crapping on the brand for a awhile now.....
@Durakken said in Predicting the next move for the series - PARTIALLY CONFIRMED? NEW GENESIS (FULL Phantasy Star Series including unreleased PSO2 Episode 4-6 Spoilers Inside ):
@Mattwo7 PSO Falz is PSO2's Elder. This we can say with certainty because the enemies/Falzspawn of PSO look the same as Elder's Falzspawn.
The only thing linking PSO and PS classic is the "possible" time travelling aspect at the end of PS3 where the Alissa 3 crash lands on a planet that is supposed to be Ragol... This places Ragol in another time or dimension or both. I choose that he goes back in time setting PS classic after PSO which fits with Coral becoming Earth in the future, because Earthlings attack the Algol system in PS2.
PSO2 and PS3 could happen at the same time.
I believe there was a statement at one time that PSU was supposed to happen at the end of the timeline which works when PSU is also supposed to have an ancient civilization that has died out in its past and its system matches with similar name and everything to the Algol system.
So timeline it all works out that way.
In PSO2... there are only 3 origins Falz... that we know of... that were created pre-game
If PSclassic happened after PSO2 that would be an evolution of or new Falz which we know is possible. PSO2 also establishes that there isn't 1 Profound Darkness even though it talks like there is and likewise the PD is not responsible for creating the Dark Falz. The PD is a non-corporeal entity that can connect to the Akashic records and photoners, enhancing their abilities and knowledge, and manifesting their thoughts and emotions into reality. This is something that Photoners could do already, but obviously have such negative emotions that it caused the Xion clone have a cascade of negative energy which turned it "evil". The Dark Falz would manifest either way with enough photonic energy and negative energy build up. The DFs are then embodiements of negative energy which are strengthened by and strengthen a PD, but are not linked in a real way, but this symbiosis would cause both sides to seek each other out, releasing each other and creating each other.
That all being said, I'm inclined to believe something I came up with the other night after I realized something. I call it the Multiple-Incarnation Theory. Basically, we're all mistaken about how the very universe/multiverse of Phantasy Star works. We're some pretty important things in ep4... like there is a god of the universe and that the earth universe as we know it wasn't always the way that it is now. It had multiple incarnations where the events happened but not the same way or how they were generally remembered. The gist of them happened, which I remembered that explanation but didn't put 2 and 2 together that we're told the exact same thing of the Akashic Records world of Omega... And then we kept on getting told that there are elements on each version that are passed along but each of the games are their own universe... I think, that's not quite true, but close, especially when you think of PSO and PSO2. Everything we know about PSO can fit into the story of PSO2 if you just take the gist of what happened and the general outline. Its when we take the details and the length of time into account that there becomes an issue...
So my idea is that the time line of Phantasy Star as a whole happened in exactly the way it is told to us, but between games the incarnation changes so its remembered as having happened differently. We were the 3 in PSO we sealed that Dark Falz on Ragol and that is now Naverius and Elder and someone else. It's the same events, just scrambled a little and that is happening in universe, not because different universe or something like that out of canon, but because in canon the entire structure of the universe as it is now has changed so that it once resembled the older game but now is the new game.
Look As cool as all of this sounds. Only the PSO games are seemingly connected with each other. The OG games doesn't really have anything to do with them except for being in the same franchise.
Interesting Ideas but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
@HermitST said in Where the content sega?:
@KOSMOSFAN22497 said in Where the content sega?:
@HermitST said in Where the content sega?:
@dalamar said in Where the content sega?:
@Ki-Rin said in Where the content sega?:
I actually thought this would be like GW2 but sci fi with dynamic events everywhere. (I don't like GW2 at all) What we have instead is an "mmo" with 8 players max in most areas (?) with a world the size of Durotar in classic WoW... I really wish they would drop this open world idea I mean what is the point? and just make good looking instanced areas like in PSO1 using this engine. I can't grasp what SEGA are trying to do.
instances suck. open world is a step in the right direction
I disagree. Open world fatigue has been a thing for a few years now, Sega have picked the wrong time to jump on that bandwagon. They also don't seem to have done their research on what makes an open world great either, because they are falling into all of the bad habits that bad open world games have.
NGS is basically fetch quest the game. Fetch materials, fetch Alpha Reactors. Only 3 areas in the whole game is focused on combat (the 3 pse burst areas)
Honestly, when I play this game, I don't feel like I am playing Phantasy Star, it feels like it's lost it's identity.
Tbf, Phantasy Star had lost it's identity long ago But I agree with you.
I was talking more about it's online games, but even back to the old games, it had this futuristic sci-fi space type feeling to it. It's there in NGS, but it doesn't feel as prominent.
Oh yeah most. DEFINITELY the Online games. Started out straight with PSO1 but soon went off the rails down the line.
The only credit I feel like I can give them is the core gameplay systems despite the crap that surrounds them.
@Pariah-Chan said in Where the content sega?:
@KOSMOSFAN22497 said in Where the content sega?:
@HermitST said in Where the content sega?:
@dalamar said in Where the content sega?:
@Ki-Rin said in Where the content sega?:
I actually thought this would be like GW2 but sci fi with dynamic events everywhere. (I don't like GW2 at all) What we have instead is an "mmo" with 8 players max in most areas (?) with a world the size of Durotar in classic WoW... I really wish they would drop this open world idea I mean what is the point? and just make good looking instanced areas like in PSO1 using this engine. I can't grasp what SEGA are trying to do.
instances suck. open world is a step in the right direction
I disagree. Open world fatigue has been a thing for a few years now, Sega have picked the wrong time to jump on that bandwagon. They also don't seem to have done their research on what makes an open world great either, because they are falling into all of the bad habits that bad open world games have.
NGS is basically fetch quest the game. Fetch materials, fetch Alpha Reactors. Only 3 areas in the whole game is focused on combat (the 3 pse burst areas)
Honestly, when I play this game, I don't feel like I am playing Phantasy Star, it feels like it's lost it's identity.
Tbf, Phantasy Star had lost it's identity long ago But I agree with you.
I honestly feel like Phantasy Star never had an identity, constantly switching its theme.
Like the first one was medieval, second sci fi, third and fourth late sci fi
PSO1 was originally supposed to be a different game in development, but was rebranded as a Phantasy Star game, so I question if it still carried that original design’s theme...
Looking at PSO2 and NGS shows that there’s definitely a theme in place finally, but the game will have to hold up on its own merits to keep us interested in it.
Like PSO2 episode 4?.....
@HermitST said in Where the content sega?:
@dalamar said in Where the content sega?:
@Ki-Rin said in Where the content sega?:
I actually thought this would be like GW2 but sci fi with dynamic events everywhere. (I don't like GW2 at all) What we have instead is an "mmo" with 8 players max in most areas (?) with a world the size of Durotar in classic WoW... I really wish they would drop this open world idea I mean what is the point? and just make good looking instanced areas like in PSO1 using this engine. I can't grasp what SEGA are trying to do.
instances suck. open world is a step in the right direction
I disagree. Open world fatigue has been a thing for a few years now, Sega have picked the wrong time to jump on that bandwagon. They also don't seem to have done their research on what makes an open world great either, because they are falling into all of the bad habits that bad open world games have.
NGS is basically fetch quest the game. Fetch materials, fetch Alpha Reactors. Only 3 areas in the whole game is focused on combat (the 3 pse burst areas)
Honestly, when I play this game, I don't feel like I am playing Phantasy Star, it feels like it's lost it's identity.
Tbf, Phantasy Star had lost it's identity long ago But I agree with you.
@Kofi9867 said in Why does it feel like the NGS director wants to kill the series?:
@KOSMOSFAN22497 said in Why does it feel like the NGS director wants to kill the series?:
@Riesz said in Why does it feel like the NGS director wants to kill the series?:
@KOSMOSFAN22497 Yup Balan has a book called "Balan Wonderworld ~Maestro of Mystery, Theatre of Wonders~"
Ah cool....Okay then again maybe not.
It's kinda sad, because you can see where all the lore went, it explains so much more of the game and puts everything together for it, SE really did Yuji Naka dirty with this game though, no doubt they urged him to cut some integral stuff.
How do you know it was SE?
@Riesz said in Why does it feel like the NGS director wants to kill the series?:
@KOSMOSFAN22497 Yup Balan has a book called "Balan Wonderworld ~Maestro of Mystery, Theatre of Wonders~"
Ah cool....Okay then again maybe not.
@Riesz said in Why does it feel like the NGS director wants to kill the series?:
@KOSMOSFAN22497 The sad thing is they made a decent enough story for the game too but they sold it as a separate book instead of actually including any dialogue in the game to understand what's going on.
There's a book?...
@Ezodagrom said in Why does it feel like the NGS director wants to kill the series?:
@KOSMOSFAN22497 said in Why does it feel like the NGS director wants to kill the series?:
@Aumires said in Why does it feel like the NGS director wants to kill the series?:
After Balan, it would surely be a swift end.
Ouch....Was Balan really that bad?..
Yes.
Damn you're right.
