Setting aside the usual intentional miscommunication Sega is known for I hope they plan on treating the SG like FUN was in base where each time a new SG scratch comes out some of the previous scratch is in it. Feels like a happy medium of letting people continue to try for free pulls of what they want whilst still creating some what of an urgency for people to actually pull with SG just incase their item might not be in the next roll over.
Honestly the combat. I really liked the scion classes in base but it felt like the game could never really keep up with them (especially luster.) Since NGS is starting with scion like classes things are designed around them better. So the combat feels more engaging instead of just press button to blow up threats and then move onto the next group.
That bug was fixed with this update.
Yeah I spend too much time on here. I should just be enjoying the game.
Yeah honestly the UI not being updated from base at all is one of my bigger issues of the game. I wonder if that's a consequence of them having both base and NGS be linked or if it's just them being lazy.
Unfortunately since the only option I didn't check mark was dlc bundle packs I didn't have many questions to answer.
I will say that while I don't think the server contents itself is inherently bad I do think it's bad that they don't ask for feedback on how to improve the likelihood of buying said things. I'm very experienced when it comes to taking serveys for games and while they aren't usually detailed to that degree some have been and I wish more were.
Also it's kind of a big misstep on their part for this particular servey at this particular time. I don't think the game is bad or in a poor state like many others believe. But I can't deny that the first servey you release is about why people aren't spending money doesn't do anything but further hurt their current image.
Not sure what you would consider clear enough then. As there's plenty of criticism about the game pretty much everywhere I go.
Regarding the $90 dollar part I don't see how that's more or less scummy than what they did in the past. NGS isn't the first existence of them locking things people would really like to have behind the bonus prizes for scratching a lot. Motions are the big ticket seller things in NGS to Sega. That's why they've put so much emphasis on things as simple as hand gestures when they were teasing NGS with us. So it only makes sense that they'ed lock some of the motions behind lots of pulling.
I also don't really think scummy is the right descriptor. Scummy to me implies you're being cheated or something. You're still getting items for those pulls. I'd say a better descriptor would be greedy.
@Malphisto said in Concerning Re-released Content…:
@Knight-Raime Na, I did respond to you, just not directly because your first post didn’t come off as being in good faith. And every post you’ve made since just reinforces that opinion of you.
Giving an excuse for you not responding to my first reply doesn't change the fact that you didn't respond to it. Nor does it change that your response to my others was clearly a decision to attack myself instead of the points I made.
For starters, your first post made the assumption everything was revolving around the current AC Scratchers. Your stunningly pretentious attitude and cringeworthy virtue signaling with the fake outrage wasn’t even the part that turned me off to you, it was the fact you outright lied. The fantasy narrative in your head apparently got the better of you as you claimed the 4 scratchers were “specifically brought back with new players in mind who didn't play PSO2 base.”
You literally can't say that I was saying everything revolves around the new scratches and then acknowledge later in this very response that I also talked about the renewal scratches. Also you can't accuse me of lying and then not back that up. It was my assumption that the 4 scratches they dropped were specifically for new players because none of the items were updated to NGS stuff. Sega hasn't made any sort of statement that would support or disprove that. So the only thing you've accomplished in this segment is just more fluff that's attacking me instead of arguing about any of the points i've made.
Specifically? No sweetie, they weren’t. Not in the Announcements or Twitter did SEGA say anywhere these scratchers were “specifically” meant for anyone, let alone new players. That’s just you trying to astro turf for a fake emotional response from anyone gullible enough to fall for your B List Debate Tactics.
No, it's a logical assumption based on how the items came to us. Just because their twitter didn't say what I assumed doesn't mean i'm lying.
To your credit, you did have the INT Saving Throw to at least also bring up the Oracle Renewal Collection, but my god your thought process was mind numbing; “If you're talking about the oracle renewal scratches where they bring in the outfits/basewear back into NGS and be updated to NGS bodies also shove off. Those are specifically being remade from scratch.”
And? So? This means literally nothing. CD Projekt Red put out fully voice acted Story Content for free for the The Witcher 3. Not even a F2P. You realize me saying this is a silver bullet that torpedoes all of your arguments, right?
Ah yes, because another company does something different this company is in the wrong. And you accuse me of mental gymnastics.
And I don’t even need that. Those event Cosmetics? Yeppers, made from scratch too. SEGA just gave those out for free. Did SEGA take a hit to their profits? YEP. They could monetize literally everything and anything in this game. But they don’t. Weird, huh? It’s almost like there’s business incentives to do so outside of accruing revenue. Oh hey, lookie there, Malphisto actually already detailed the reasons for why Devs do such practices in the industry. Weird how you conveniently ignored all that.
I really don't see how anyone can rationally think that because some things can be given for free that means everything can/should.
And then your final point in that first post as the cherry on top; “If you cared about an item/liked an item so much that you felt okay spending cash on it”
This line right here? Evidence that my point went so over your head that it was truly not worth it for me to respond to you. Because the point wasn’t that I didn’t want others to have access to past content, my beef was that the “limited time” gimmick imposed upon me a concern that if I failed to get the items at that time, I’d never have another chance, hence I felt PRESSURED into spending money as opposed to grinding to acquire the Meseta. But you were so hyper fixated on your high horse ranting that you apparently couldn’t process any of this.
Ah yes, you're so totally big brained that you've had to explain things out to a small brained person like me so you've got to hide behind giant walls of text where half of it is spent attacking me instead of my argument. Silly me. Also you can't really say "not worth responding" yet you've chosen to anyway. I don't see why you'd feel pressured. base PSO2 clearly established in more than one instance with more than one way that items can and have returned before.
Let’s dissect the rest of your recent bad takes, this is fun. “FUN items are clearly below in terms of quality for cosmetics.” Bzzt, irrelevant. Any and all cosmetics require labor to create, which means SEGA is paying Devs to code and render content with no intent to see a monetary gain off of said cosmetics.
“Setting them on the same table as AC items just to hamstring an argument” It’s ok, I know it feels bad not to have an actual counter argument. Your internal logic is being tested but you’re too stubborn to just take the L and admit your perception is wrong. It’s easier for you to recoil at the whole thing and try to avoid it altogether.
This is lest dissecting and more just taking pot shots at me instead of my arguments. Your favorite Witcher game has both free and paid dlc. Clearly free and paid cosmetics can exist. One is deemed more valuable than the other. That's all there is to it.
Now your brain is doing these mental gymnastics trying to impose a vague scale of value between FUN Scratch and AC Scratch Cosmetics, but in reality that’s a moot point. You were the one trying to insist that the redone PSO2 Cosmetics for NGS “must cost money and should not be given out for free to those who already own the PSO2 version.”
I wasn't arguing that all cosmetics should cost money. That's you making assumptions based off of my statements.
There is a fundamental question you aren’t asking yourself. COULD the NGS versions be given out as a free upgrade? Yes. There’s nothing in the universe dictating SEGA lock those versions off behind a paywall. Just like with Event and FUN Cosmetics, SEGA chooses what to provide for free. If they made the NGS Variants as a free conversion for players who previously already owned said PSO2 Cosmetics, that’s both A) within their right to do so, B) is something they could easily afford doing, C) wouldn’t be more impressive than what other Devs have just given out for free in other games, and D) I’ve already laid perfectly sound reasoning from a business owner’s perspective for why the company would want to do something like that.
Actually I already some what addressed this. I stated that if the devs gave you free access to said cosmetics because you got them in base that not only circumvents the gaccha system which a lot of the game's systems are built upon, but it would encourage new players to go play what is considered old content in order to get easier access to newer cosmetics. Which they probably don't want.
I’m sorry, all of your talking points are really just you spouting hot air. And if you wanted a nicer response from me? You get what you give. I don’t feel sorry in the least for you.
Anyway, that was enjoyable. Time for bed. Toodles~
Go touch some grass man.
Or perhaps you're just blowing it out of proportion and wanting to shift blame away from Sega for some reason. It doesn't matter what content creators are saying because Sega is getting plenty of money. Until something actually starts hurting their bottom dollar it's not going to matter.
I've not heard any content creator state that they're happy with how things are right now. I wouldn't assume people are okay just because they're not raising arms about it. Besides Sega has always and still continues to really only care about their JP base. That's not anything we have control over. JP (and not just for pso2) is always hyper critical with stuff they don't like. So I wouldn't take a lack of action on Sega's part as the community signaling everything as okay.
Sega's inaction is this way because it's how they've always been both with Phantasy star as a franchise and their other franchises as well. You'd really have to get the gaming industry as a whole to start bullying Sega and their practices to get any sort of change done.