The turns sure have tabled from the days when PC players were denied a beta and XBOX players were gloating over it.

Nonetheless, i do hope everyone gets a chance, if not this time, at least on the next, despite how they acted back then.

I feel like i am going to be quoting this thread a lot whenever next someone claims the NA community is just as good as the JP community and that their performance is above what is needed for UH.

@Ezodagrom said in Expert matchmaking,when?:

@IfrianMMO said in Expert matchmaking,when?:

People nag about elitists and elitist attitudes, but i feel like more than one poster in this thread would be surprised to find their contribution in the single digit/lower double digit %.

In a 12 player mpa, if everyone contributed exactly the same, everyone would contribute 8.3% though, so, for someone to be able contribute more than lower double digit %, there must be others that contribute alot less.

High single digit % or low double digit % is above average in a 12 player group.

You are not wrong, but i was not referring exclusively to 12 man content and i was also referring to scenarios where there are 3 or 4 players doing 85% of the total dps and the rest pretty much cruisiting, which happens more often than you think.

Nonetheless , ti´s my fault for not extending the explanation.

I keep saying that the majority of NA players believe to be a lot better at the game than they actually are.

I wish parsers and DPS meters were legal and public and every player had access to them. Not to mock people or humiliate them, mind me, that should be bannable, but because it would help a lot of people to improve.

I feel like a major problem of the NA community is that for the most part it only has itself to compare and with no native tools to truly measure performance in the middle of a fight, or to truly know much one does, there is no incentive to get better.

People nag about elitists and elitist attitudes, but i feel like more than one poster in this thread would be surprised to find their contribution in the single digit/lower double digit %.

@Vashzaron said in Expert matchmaking,when?:

I heavily disagree with that PSO example because character growth always allowed you to dispatch of enemies quicker, getting into the Resta knockdown rodeo is a waste of time compared to being tapped while in anticipation and using mate instantly and repositioning. You mention things like being surrounded, that is already a mistake to have allowed that to happen and you never should. Positioning was vital in that game with its slow or lack movement options to PSO2's caffeinated combat in comparison. And not to toot my own horn but I've played on a certain PSO server that has perma death accounts for a long time, I'd like to think that sort of consequences in play makes someone learn that sort of thing quicker.

I'd also like to point out being knocked down or not (outside of a few enemy moves that always caused knockdown) was based on the amount of damage you took in a single hit vs your max HP, I'm pointing this out because levels are mentioned when they really mean nothing if someone has decided to take on HP units or stuffed themselves with HP/DEF Materials for example, if said player likes to get knocked down that would actually make things worse for them.

Actually, in some instances such as Olga flow and Dark Falz Ultimate, getting knocked down on purpose allowed you to avoid grants and other follow-up attacks and was a commonly used strategy with some classes and set-ups.

And those are not the only examples.

Also, getting surrounded then killing everything in a few fell swoops was the most effective and quick way to farm for loot and outside TTF, but it could occasionally backfire.

@Ashe-Kinsilla said in I'm sick and tired of people "Waiting for NGS" and absolutely do nothing at all in PSO2.:

What if i join a UQ but dont join a party? When I go into a UQ OR SOMETHING that you need 8-12 PEOPLE for. I'm playing for my time. I do not care about anyone else.

I think you need to calm down with those BIG BOLD WORDS. We aren't stuck in a game that if we take to long to do something, the world BLOWS UP. Take a deep breath. Its just a game. I'm sorry if everyone isnt on par with everyone else. That everyone isn't pro mode only and that everyone else isn't as geared/pro at the class they JOINED with. Kind of just DEAL WITH IT you know?

EDIT: I WILL MAKE SURE THE NEXT TIME I'M IN A UQ I WILL TREAT EVERYONE LIKE MY ROMANTIC PARTNER AND INSURE THAT EVERYONE IS HAPPY ON OUR 10-20 MINUTE WALK OF LIFE TOGETHER. I WILL KISS AND HUG EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN MY RANDOM UQS TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE FEELS HAPPY AND AT THEIR PEEK TEAM WORK ABILITY.

Not sure how to reply to this post without insulting your intelligence, but i will try.

Even if you join "solo", you are still joining a multi-player UQ, which means you are still joining 11 other players and thus wasting everyone else´s time if you are just derping around.

No-one is asking you to perform at top 5% world class performance, simply to do your best, which includes knowing and executing the basics of your class, and having gear that is relevant and on par with the content you are tackling, even if unaffixed.

It is not something unreasonable to ask from people participating in the endgame, and it is all you need to defeat the solo requirements for expert.

It really is not, and even less in our version, which is a free event gear piñata

If you are unable to understand that being a clueless dead-weight, or just derping around an UQ is literally wasting the time of 11 other players, and that it is not okay to do so, then you have serious problems, or you are just a selfish narcissist.

@Ryoga said in Expert matchmaking,when?:

@IfrianMMO What you are talking about had nothing to do with your level but with your tankiness vs. an individual hit. Also, everything with access to jellen shouldn't have had any survivability issues at all aside from dodging "one-shot" attacks, not dying to "damage reflect" abilities and them being "too greedy" with berserk weapons.

I was making an example with the HUmar, because the average level your every day, normal geared HUmar would reach that tankiness, stat wise, was around lv125.

I also said some classes, not "all the classes" therefore, while you are not wrong in your statement, it does not disprove what i said either.

@YagyuChan said in I'm sick and tired of people "Waiting for NGS" and absolutely do nothing at all in PSO2.:

why people should suffer to add requirements that make no sense since most content after is scaled for 12 people to play but the requirements themselves are solo.

Because the entire point is that you should be a good player SOLO and then join your strenght to other players who are also good SOLO.

Thus, several good solo players, put together equals a good UQ.

You seem to be stuck in the whole solo vs party issue when it´s a non-issue to begin with.

Much like a healthy romantic relationship is two people who have a healthy, happy life of their own, but decide to share and walk life together, a healthy multi party is many people who are good on their own, joining forces together.

So yes, requirements being solo make PERFECT SENSE because the entire point is that you need to be good on your own before you waste everyone else´s time.

I really do not undertstand why is it so hard, for some of you, to understand that you are not ENTITLED TO OTHER PEOPLE´S TIME and that when you join other people, you are basically declaring that YOU WILL DO YOUR BEST TO CLEAR THE TARGET OBJECTIVE.

Yes, we all have different motives to play and different things we enjoy, but precisely because it is impossible to PLEASE EVERYONE at the same time, the only option left, and the one that is the most fair and equal, is to COMPLETE THE OBJECTIVE OF THE GAME.

That is because the second you joined a party, you have AGREED TO ACCEPT THAT OBJECTIVE, and so did everyone else, so performing well in said objective is the ONLY COMMON DENOMINATOR .

You do not get to impose your preferences and enjoyment ON EVERYONE ELSE and neither do they have the right to impose it on you.

But asking you to perform well is not imposing someone else´s preference on you, because that is what you have signed up for THE SECOND YOU JOINED A MULTIPLAYER PARTY.

The fact that such a simple concept has to be explained is borderline maddening.

An online game is not like an offline game, where you have the right to do whatever you want, because you paid for it, it belongs to you, and it is there for your exclusive use.

You are neither the only player or the protagonist, the only thing you own is your licensed right to access the game servers and the maintenance of your account, everything else is shared and belongs to everyone else equally.

And i feel a lot of people struggle with this concept.

Hey, at least balance is not as bad as it was on PSO1&2, where some classes became weaker, the higher level and gear they had, because of the knockback system.

The HUmar, for instance, enjoyed it´s sweet spot in ULTIMATE between lv100 and lv 120, as the moment you reached lv 125 you were basically screwed unless you had BiS gear and were maxed on materials.

Basically, in PSO, when you got hit by a hard attack, you would get knocked down, which gave a limited time invincibility and freely allowed you to heal back up, and avoid enemy and boss combo/chained attacks.

However, once you were lv125 aprox, you would stop getting knocked down, which means now you would take the full brunt of the enemy chain attacks, and would also get animation locked, thus dieing to things you had easily survived for 125 levels.

Even getting surrounded by a few rappies or basic enemies, which was much easier back then, as movement was much slower and clunky, would spell doom as you would get animation locked to death.

This only got marginally better at lv 185/200 and with BiS gear, as you could, most of the time, survive long enough, and monsters would start missing often enough, to use resta, but it was still never as good as when you were lv110.

Basically, some classes at lv200 had a harder time than at lv110.

@Milk said in Expert matchmaking,when?:

Duplicate, curse wifi!

I think minds can change, I know I’ve spoken to someone on the forum in suggestions and we didn’t agree on anything at all but I did walk away from the discussion a little unsure of my previous stance. I don’t think opinions are set in stone and a good argument can be persuasive.

Sure, but there is a big difference between changing one´s mind on a specific topic after being convinced, and changing one´s words on a per-thread basis like many people here.

You cannot claim, for instance, low population in this thread, then 10 minutes later post in the "Unable to find people to do triggers" thread about how your server is full of people and you have no problem finding full parties for any content ever.

And this is a literal example that i have seen since this thread began.