@YagyuChan Wait until you do an endless run solo, forget about setting a password and after a lap you notice a little dot on the map hidden in a corner, check the number of players, you read "2/4" and you figure out that someone has been leeching the whole run 
@Meikoloid said in 14* Jinga drop rate is very concerning:
On another note, has anyone seen if Persona and the LQ drop any important candies? So far I've not seen anything other than the usual cookies.
From persona I got one exquisite transformation parfait, exquisiste satisfying parfait and (iirc) a frenzied parfait but I I'm not playing very much summoner at the moment, so I don't know about LQ.
I think this should close the question: https://www.facebook.com/liberate.salon/
If a mothertongue translates "ăȘăăŹă€ă" to Liberate, then it's definitely liberate.
@Milk Without conversion roll (which is unsure if it will be included in EP6 exchange), melon is an average pet (for bossing) with high pp consumption and bad for mobbing.
If you're just starting with summoner, I suggest you to focus on maxing at least one 13* Jinga ( you can obtain it from collection folder) with Sunny/Very Sunny personality and Light element.
If I recall correctly, you get one 13* wanda with very sunny personality from story quest but I don't remember the element, so make sure you have at least one wanda with light element, then change the rarity from NPC with the 13* and use its personality, then evolve it into Jinga being careful to mess the personality in the process.
Another suggestion I can give you, is to have at least one of each pet so you can do Pietro's weeklies for free sweets.
If you have Photon Spheres in excess, you can buy 12* EXP eggs from the pet NPC to level them up faster.
When you have common eggs in excess, you can use them as fodder to increase stats of a pet faster (beware: you basically lose all the XP):
(you can optimize it further to work around the synthesis cooldown)
Don't forget to level up summoner class in all your alts until you get the 10th gift from Pietro, which is a Support Roll (that's the only way to get them, unless you want to pay absurd prices to people that exploit alts to obtain unlimited amount of them).
A fast way to do this process on alts is to run "Suppress Za'udan" from ARKS Quests with Pietro as companion (it takes 50 runs +/-) as soon as you obtain his partner card (you need to complete his "A Parent's Pride" CO).
@Miraglyth said in 14* Jinga drop rate is very concerning:
JP have also had event collection folders that expired. Global hasn't had any of those yet (unless they predated PC) but that's my biggest concern for now.
If it's temporary or a "one shot" only collection, it's basically useless because several copies of the same pet are required.
At that point it would be better to aim for the rarest one (probably 14* rappy).
Also if sweets are limited to the listed parfaits, that's kinda disappointing (and worrying, since some required rolls drop from ultimate naverius and, frankly, I don't want to go back there farming).
@TyboltTiger said in Let's have a vent topic for the Madness UQ!:
I've finally watched myself become MMO elitist scum, as I now look at the gear of everyone coming into this quest and watching how bad we end up failing since people are showing up with unaffixed/junk weapons and units.
I feel like, because we're being rushed through content, there needs be some additional methods to teach inexperienced players in the game on how to not ending up needing to be carried.
Either that or, please get us expert matching right now. Thank you please, GMs.
I'm afraid that gear alone won't help much when you get matched with only 2-3 people out of 8 that know what to do and the latters either set the towers' mode to "attack" or do not care about what spawn in the map aside monsters (enemy rams, towers for eg.) or both.
Unlike the other UQ and BQ, there is little margin to carry inexperienced players.
I never thought I'd say this, but they should release expert matching asap since the recently released UQs are either infested with afks hiding in safe spots (like thanksgiving) or may fail miserably due to inexperience/indifference/carelessness/map unawareness.
@ZorokiHanuke Actual state of SU is good as they paint, as long as you have decent sweets (for actual content) and a maxed pet (13* is enough).
I understand that for the average player it may not look so good, even fulfilling the above criteria, but putting some effort into understanding pet limits (you can't expect your pet to facetank phaleg, for eg., unless 14* melon), proper positioning and when to recall/iframe, everything is doable.
What most of summoners are concerned of, specially those who play multiple classes and not specifically main it (because drops happens only with su), is the strict roadmap leading to EP6 and the lack of both sweets and relevant 14* eggs making it an almost impossible task to be ready for UH and later content.
As someone else said, this is not JP, EP6 will probably come in less than a month and we don't even have some sweets dropping and those that drop have such a low chance that it can be hardly considered sustainable.
I also don't see a plan behind it, since a GM was clearly unaware of the problems (but kind enough to listen to us) and the timespan is so short that, unless they literally hand out sweets and pets or put an exchange for them, many summoners will not be ready for EP6.
One thing is for sure: no one in their right mind should even remotely consider to play summoner from scratch at this point, it's the least "new player friendly" class.
@ZorokiHanuke Obviously there is more than the class and its toolkit, I disagree with those that bash on summoner as being an "easy class" (the same could be said of hu because of iron will and automate, for eg.) or lacking damage .
That being said, dedication is the key but it's overall harder to sustain and gear up su on endgame than any other class since eggs are untradable, sweets are rare and/or unavailable/untradable and multiple copies of both are required.
Surely there are cheap ways to beat harder content like phaleg (14* melon takes 1 damage), but that would fall on your Dude B case, Dude A most likely beat it prior level 90 with another pet and learned all the tells.
@ZorokiHanuke If you look at the youtube video linked earlier of masq 999, I wouldn't say "pets are fine" and "people need to get good" since that player both relies on RNG of proccing photon barrier (probably using barrier roll given the frequency), multiple pets with the same setup (which requires time and luck, given the current drop rates and the lack of relevant sweets) and not using alter ego.
Take into account that most of pets do not have iframes and recall isn't really an option since you'd need to do it too often in that fight.
It's definitely doable, but you have to either rely on rng or use a pet like synchro and iframe every attack both on pet and on you.
@GM-Deynger Just a suggestion: for all other classes, you can exchange a weapon you already own (atlas, ex, trailblazer) for another at Zieg, why not do the same thing with eggs (14* only) and sweets?
I think it's the easiest way to solve the problem without trivializing too much the process of obtaining a good pet/sweet.