@Yggranya There's this thing called immersion. People who can get immersed in a story usually will find a character or two they identify with.

@Phill-N-Kills I wasn't comparing them. You had made the comment "A replicant pack would be 100x better for male characters than 9S's schoolboy outfit".

I responded "I actually like 9S more than Kaine", which would imply given the context of the discussion that I like his outfit more than I would a Kaine outfit, and so would welcome a NGS upgrade. Also 9S has a female outfit variant you could purchase if you got the A2 pack during the collab.

And yeah, they probably won't do the skeletal stuff. But they do have the rappy outfits and a few other weird stuff, like the polygons and that one mascot from Persona, so I don't think it's too absurd a wish. That said I agree they probably won't.

@Phill-N-Kills I actually like 9S more than Kaine.

I would like Nier Replicant outfits (the male stuff as I main males), and I wouldn't mind having Emil's body to go along with the head for my Cast.

Ships 1 and 2 are fairly similar. I have characters on both, and I've found that the population size is fairly similar as well. Ship 2 has a bit of a cult following however. Before Global released last year, many english players called Ship 2 in the japanese version of the game home, and when the global version released a handful of those players flocked to ship 2, so the server had a kind of soft jump start.

That jump start is largely irrelevant now. Global is caught up save for some missing cosmetics which we will probably not see due to licensing issues. Ships 3 and 4 have much smaller populations due to their being populated later, and the smaller population will likely mean you encounter the same people more often, thus making rude players seem more prevalent when it's probably you just unfortunately running into some of the same people over and over again.

Ship 2 developed a negative stigma due to a handful of elitist players and guilds coming in from JP, but it's not really relevant to the current state of the community either. Every game and server will have their fair share of unhelpful, entitled jerks, I think it just happens that since Ship 2's community had that jump start it was more obvious. Several guilds I remember seeing in the first months of Global were also setting up lofty requirements that people new to the game (or franchise) weren't really in a position to adhere to: Must have these classes, this skill tree, these weapons with these augments (when many players still can't figure out how augments work because I have yet to see anyone be able to explain it in a simple, to the point manner). Note too that not all JP players are rude. I've met plenty of helpful and kind individuals.

Ship 1 I encounter rude people too. I've had people criticize my characters, try to shame me for not having a best in slot item, and there's a lot of people in games in general who won't actually describe how to do things, instead choosing to bemoan others when a simple explanation would probably have helped more than anything.

Don't let people get to you. This is a game and it's supposed to be fun. Anyone who has the attitude that you should know more than you do or that you are wasting their time are being entitled, because this is a community game. Teamwork overpowers individual needs and wants.

@_Flux_ said in Phantasy Star Classic AC Scratch is here!!:

Just wanting to interject: If you can play FF6 or Chrono Trigger, then you can play PS4. It's on that level and I highly recommend it. Easily the best RPG on the Genesis, one of the top for the 16-bit era and has aged super well to boot. Plus it covers the lore of the other 3.

If you're not interested, then you're not interested; just thought I'd try to sell it a bit. It's an incredible game.

Are the PSs like the FF series in that each numerical entry doesn't require knowledge of the previous?

@Miraglyth said in Phantasy Star Classic AC Scratch is here!!:

@KOSMOSFAN22497 said in Phantasy Star Classic AC Scratch is here!!:

It just so happens that PSO does better than expected and is thus more well known to the general public.

"The general public" in the western world knew literally nothing about Final Fantasy II (actual, not IV), III or V before VII introduced the series to them, and in Europe (where the entire Phantasy Star classic series released) it seems VII was literally the first Final Fantasy even released so they didn't know of I, IV or VI either. Yet despite all of them being the definitive end to their own self-contained stories, all pre-VII games have since seen several remakes each and all have featured as equal parts of about six Dissidia games and probably over twenty mobile gacha games at this point.

What's the most well-known Zelda game? Probably Ocarina of Time. Yet preceding games in that series have been regularly celebrated and some like Link's Awakening have been remade too. Also see Mario 64 and pretty much all preceding Mario games including 2 which wasn't even a Mario game in Japan that have all been regularly referenced, re-released in compilations and WiiWare and showcased in two Mario Maker titles.

I doubt if there had been a good 3D Sonic game beyond Adventure 2 that people would have forgotten about 2, 3 and & Knuckles either. Mania would surely have still been one of the most popular Sonic games this side of the millennium.

Happy coincidence, earlier today I was randomly watching a Game Grumps video for the first time in months, and lo and behold a retro JRPG style minigame got called out for looking like Phantasy Star (7:23 if the link doesn't work). Phantasy Star I in particular here - the party stats are an almost dead ringer for its battle screen. And that was a video from 3 months ago, played by Youtubers who surely wouldn't describe themselves as Phantasy Star fans and who have never played a Phantasy Star game on their veteran channel.

TLDR: One game from the late 90s being an alleged catalyst for a series' fame does not automatically mean all prior games in a series that date back to the 80s should be consigned to history. If the Twitter responses to this AC set, the fact that several of us had been asking for it for months moreso than any other AC set, and the general player market prices of some parts of the set itself are any indication, the parts of Phantasy Star that predate Online still hold a surprising amount of love - and to Sega, untapped potential.

I agree with most of what you've said. Just to clear up any confusion that may exist... Final Fantasy 2 did not release in the U.S. until 2003 (meaning we had already received FF7-11). Final Fantasy 3 released in the U.S. in November 2006 (Final Fantasy 12 was the new shiny FF at the time). Final Fantasy 1 and 4 released in 1990 and 1991 respectively in the United States, but 7 gained so much notoriety because it innovated the RPG formula and made it "modernized" for the time. It was also hailed as one of the games that introduced jrpgs to 3d models.

The internet was just becoming a common utility when FF2 released in the U.S., so it's no mystery as to why people didn't know of the older FFs (or care).

As far as the old PS games. I've always been big on jrpgs and I didn't know about the old Phantasy Stars until well after PSO1. And even then, I don't really care about going back and playing them now because I'm not real big on vintage gaming.

@Church10129 said in Phantasy Star Classic AC Scratch is here!!:

there is a memory exchange for Phantasy Star Ø in JP detailed here: https://pso2.arks-visiphone.com/wiki/Memory_Exchange_Shop#PSZERO_Memory_Exchange , though in a previous suggestion topic the HUnewm outfit was requested as well.

So if it was a memory, we'll probably get it as a direct-purchase similar to the current PSO1 memories.

@GM-Deynger said in Phantasy Star Classic AC Scratch is here!!:

Hi all! Glad you're happy with this AC Scratch collection. I'll let the team know about the Wren fashion/cosmetics. Are there any other character outfits you'd like to see?

I don't remember their names, but I would love to see the Phantasy Star Zero stuff.

@Yeah-Yeah-Beebiss Same