@Miraglyth said in Discontinuation of Mission Pass Gold Ticket:

@Akonyl said in Discontinuation of Mission Pass Gold Ticket:

Where did the bit about JP totally ending their MP come from?

@LusterMain linked it in the topic's first reply:

According to JP, it appears they are no longer making mission passes.

Hm, gotcha. It's kind of interesting though that the headline there is specifically about them not selling the Golds anymore, and they just mention that golds won't be sold anymore as a result of the total discontinuation just in the announcement text as a kind of aside from the looks of it. Seems like not having MPs at all would be the bigger news, but who knows. At the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if Global's announcement was just supposed to be a total copy of this, and they just saw the "MP will be discontinued" bit and just decided to gloss over it. Wouldn't be the first time.

@Miraglyth said in Discontinuation of Mission Pass Gold Ticket:

JP are ending Mission Pass on PSO2 so it seems reasonable to expect Global will be as well.

Where did the bit about JP totally ending their MP come from? Because though anything's possible, I'd like to think that if JP specified a total MP death but global only specified the death of Gold, that it was an intentional distinction. Since after all, the MP in Global and JP serve pretty different purposes (and Global's came first), so I could see a scenario where they just throw old outfits at us in the Global MP under the guise of "whatever, it's old stuff, don't make them spend SG anymore" but don't want to bother with making gold paths for an obsolete system, and just yank the more basic impl of the JP side entirely since they already got the outfits without the MP and their MP was pretty basic.

The only thing that really makes me wonder about this is the mission badge shop, which lets us get augments for badges, and I can't really see them giving us access to it when JP can't get any more mission badges for it. They could always make alternate methods to get mission badges, though, since I'd also be kind of surprised if they made gear harder to obtain for JP after the move to NGS.

@Jamesmor yeah, though it looks like it's hitting on May 12, which'd give 2 weeks for it if the update was on the 25th, which doesn't sound entirely unreasonable. Looking at Bumped, apparently it lasted 3 weeks on JP, so possible they just condense it for Global like they have a decent chunk of things.

Though if they stick to the "maint every 2 weeks schedule" it's possible it'd be on June 8th too, since they're giving us a benchmark with a char creator attached, maybe they figure they don't have to give us the actual in-game update very long before NGS actually hits either, since we'd be able to tweak our chars + check our specs regardless.

I think the update that just went out gives a pretty good hint too: https://www.pso2.com/news/announcements/missionfounders0423

The mission pass (gold) is being killed on the May 25th maint, along with purchasable DLC packs that contain PSO2 outfits at the same date. So, sounds like May 25th is as good a date as any for the graphical switch.

@Jamesmor Couldn't those campaigns just as easily be the type that give rewards out a few weeks later though, instead of at compaign completion? Since we've also still got the twitter campaign that's going to be dumping old-type cosmetics on us at the end of May, could be this update doesn't dump the NGS accessories/emotes on us until June or so.

@Miraglyth said in fyi: CBT may be locked to the PC that signed up:

@Akonyl said in fyi: CBT may be locked to the PC that signed up:

on the laptop the PSO2 beta is in the "available" section and not the "joined" section like it is on my desktop. Both comps are using the same store/xbox account.

Thanks, I felt that confirmation was missing before. This is better information.

Now this is curious. You have to wonder how they'd track this - especially on the PSO2/Sega side where all they probably get to see is the Xbox account.

If what Jamesmor said was right, then it could just be something like the actual access is handled server-side per account, but the insider hub app caches the local state data to the registry/wherever so it doesn't have to ping the xbox services to show what you're registered to (which might be useful considering what we experienced, showing that the insider app server was run on a potato or something).

In which case, registering with a second computer wouldn't actually do anything beyond the server telling the app you're already registered, and your app updates to correct itself. That'd also explain the case of the guy who formatted and apparently lost beta access, but who knows for sure.

@Miraglyth said in fyi: CBT may be locked to the PC that signed up:

It's only a couple people saying it and we don't know if they are signed into the same Xbox account with the Microsoft Store / Xbox Insider Hub account across machines.

It doesn't help that Microsoft allows (and encourages, last I saw) a Windows 10 device account to be used as a Microsoft account; these people may be effectively being treated as separate accounts on different devices because of this. It would help if these users were playing PSO2 on multiple machines as that would likely confirm it, but since people probably only use one machine to game that's understandable.

I'm particularly curious about the poster of the post linked; apparently they formatted their laptop and it lost its beta access? If it was using something like the MAC address it should have kept the beta access, so this makes me think as part of the formatting they made a new device-based Microsoft account and that would naturally get treated separately.

Would be nice to see screenshots of Windows Insider Hub on multiple machines, because that shows the Xbox avatar Mii style dude in the upper right. If this was machine-limited they'd have the same avatar in different machines not all of which had beta access. That'd confirm it.

I actually have an old laptop I used to play PSO2 on up till two months ago or so, so I just decided to unearth it (since i gotta reinstall PSO2 before some travel anyway) and went ahead and downloaded the insider app to check, and I can confirm that on the laptop the PSO2 beta is in the "available" section and not the "joined" section like it is on my desktop. Both comps are using the same store/xbox account.

@TEN-SQUARE-3 said in fyi: CBT may be locked to the PC that signed up:

That’s going to suck for me if that’s the case, my laptop is no where near powerful to run the beta. Thankfully a friend agreed to lend their gaming laptop for that weekend so I could try it out, but that will go out the window if this is true

fwiw, it sounds like if this is true that you can just sign up on your main PC anyway as well, it's one account per PC (according to a different topic there) but people there say they managed to sign up on another PC afterwards anyway so one account can register on multiple machines potentially

Juts make sure the sign up window doesn't close first.

This is basically just a reddit crosspost a friend sent me: https://www.reddit.com/r/PSO2NGS/comments/mvuz46/heads_up_the_global_ngs_beta_appears_to_bind_the/

But from the looks of it, if you sign up for the beta on one PC and then check on another (like if you signed up on a laptop but planned to play on a desktop), that PC will show as not being registered to the beta since the signup is apparently per-computer (along with being tied to your account). Haven't tried it myself, though.

Who knows how this actually affects the beta rollout, but figured it'd be worth mentioning (and not in one of the other random CBT complaint topics where it might be glossed over) since I figure some people might've signed up on some secondary PC because they couldn't access their main PC when the window opened.

Well speak of the devil, snow kimono without the fur bowa popped up. Not the winter version, though.