@Perfect-Poizon said in N-grinders:

Can we get 100 packs for like 5 or 10 USD on the shop? Please and thank you!!

I'd spend a dollar on that at most. tbh, I would just be patient for a while. The conditions are here for grinder supply to far outweight demand eventually, just like base PSO2. Give it a few weeks and you will have so many grinders you will not know how to spend them.

@Gilver-Redgrave I would suggest re-reading my post before you start calling my reasons BS. It is fine if you don't think they are good reasons, but I never spoke to them being objectively good reasons for doing this, just that they are, possible reasons.

Right now, Sega is concerned most about longevity due to a lack of content. This is why Resurgir is the only 4 star weapon group that allows for certain weapon combinations. It's so you have to actually go out and find the two Resurgirs you want. If Vialto and friends could do everything, that would be multiple less compelling things to find running circles in combat areas.

This is also why it is a balance lever. It lets Sega pick and choose multi-weapon availability to match difficulty to obtain. Later, they may release weapons that cannot be multi-weapon'd but contain unique passives. It opens up options for them.

I'm not interested in a prolonged discussion about this, so take it or leave it. If we don't agree, I'm fine with that.

One reason is to give you something to actually look for, rather than just grabbing the first two 4 star weapons you get, fusing them together and calling it an update cycle. Another reason is to allow Sega an additional lever for balance.

@Miraglyth said in Can we remove the 10% damage bonus to using "main class weapons" in NGS, just makes multiweapons worse for no reason.:

When some classes' skills are 5% (i.e. Shifta), it means those classes can still use other classes' weapons as effectively as the class they belong to. The CWAB needs to be at least as effective as what is effectively an unconditional permanent boost provided by main class skills, or replaced at least in part by other main-class only skills that specifically affect class weapons, or it'll fail to perform its sole purpose.

They'd still be losing out on 5% damage bonus from not using main weapons, wouldn't they? This bonus would, I assume, stack with Shifta.

Not to suggest you're making this argument (consider it an aside), but I've seen similar reasoning in multiple places w/ regard to Shifta/Deband and class main skills (that having S/D up basically negates them) and it makes no sense at all to me. I feel like I'm misunderstanding something fundamental about this game's mechanics.

@AngryRhombus563 said in Can we remove the 10% damage bonus to using "main class weapons" in NGS, just makes multiweapons worse for no reason.:

So is this a hidden buff? I dabbled a bit of Force/Hunter and dont see too much of a difference when using sword. Granted, the damage variance weapons have probably makes it hard to tell if its not specifically listed.

10% isn't very noticeable when our average damage hovers around the hundreds. It'll become way more noticeable later as our numbers grow.

I don't think it should be removed; there is something to be said for main classes being the best at their main class weapons. But 10% is way, way too steep to the point of discouraging people from experimentation (or at least, it will when damage goes up and UQ bosses become more difficult).

5% seems like a sweeter spot for this. That is also a significant number, and min-maxers will pay attention to it, but it's not significant enough that someone is utterly gimping themselves for using their sub's weapon type.

@Yggranya said in Petition: Sega, please reconsider your stance on PSO2 titles carrying over into NGS.:

@_Flux_ Anyone disagreeing with you is a troll, i'm sure. Anyway, next time you know not to start your thread with "i talk for myself and all my imaginary friends, so listen to "us"."

Litetally everyone in this thread disagrees with me and unlike you they were civil about it and backed up their arguments. You're the only one I've accused of trolling. Something to think about as I block you.

@Yggranya said in Petition: Sega, please reconsider your stance on PSO2 titles carrying over into NGS.:

Disliking an unnecessary suggestion isn't anything new.

Most people would've made their point and moved on, because this was a minor ass QoL suggestion and not nearly worth this kind of BS. But for some reason you've shat all over this thread from the start, offering NOTHING but thinly concealed insults, and you continue even though the discussion is over.

If your post is removed, it won't be his fault, it'll be mine, because you're clearly just trolling now and I'm through with it.

@Yggranya If you play any MMOs at all, you would know how powerful a motivator prestige and completionism are. Engagement is everything to these games, and this is one easy way to increase it.

And I'm sure veteran players who, say, got all their classes to 100, or managed to snag 2000 likes, would love to have the title they earned carry over into NGS, just like they'd like their cosmetics to. And I would know at least that it'd have to be easier than the cosmetics and weapons due to just being strings in a database with no visual assets, balance or body compatibility to worry about.

You know what, though? Forget it. The writing's on the wall, because if a request is met with this kind of resistance and absolutely zero support, then there's no chance Sega will care in the first place.

Thanks for engaging, everyone. Have a good one.

@ultimatecalibur said in Petition: Sega, please reconsider your stance on PSO2 titles carrying over into NGS.:

It might actually be more unreasonable than you think and the games that have done "similar" stuff were likely doing very different stuff behind the scenes. From what I understand players can only access their PSO2 inventories in NGS's Town which limits how often inventory info needs to be shared/converted between the PSO2 servers and NGS servers. Sharing title info on the other hand would require more constant contact between the two.

I don't know how the code and server structure behind the scenes actually works, so very well-- I'll refrain from making hard calls on the difficulty of a task. But just from my limited viewpoint, it doesn't seem like it'd be that difficult; they already carry over a multitude of other things you've unlocked.

Either way, the actual logistics of it aren't my problem. If Sega's dev team sees enough demand, they'll figure it out one way or another I'm sure. It'd be nicer to know if this is something people want rather than what people think is possible because what use is the latter feedback when we don't even work for Sega?

@ultimatecalibur said in Petition: Sega, please reconsider your stance on PSO2 titles carrying over into NGS.:

I think they don't actually want people to play both. The linked nature of PSO2 and NGS is more about not splitting the existing playerbase into PSO2 players and NGS players (and therefore crippling both games) and not upsetting the existing PSO2 players by shutting down the servers.

Plausible, given all the caveats between how the two games connect, but they've clearly made compromises and sacrifices to make this happen (building a new engine around an old game alone is a logistical nightmare I'd want to avoid) so I see anything that makes use of that connection as a boon. But that's just me.