Can we Stop With Pointless Censorship?

I'm not sure about what got censored in the arks hour as I didn't see it. However the censorship with clothing seems to go inline with NPC clothing and nothing else as far as I know. This "makes sense" because most NPC's are rather young even if legal. Far as the changing of other stuff I can't really say.

I can't say I feel terribly strong about it one way or another though I understand both sides. If Catschief ends up being censored i'll be disappointed for sure. But It won't really ruin my enjoyment of the game.

@Knight-Raime This case of clothing censorship would not effect the NPC since the censorship is to have what would normally be the innerwear always there. It only limits player customization.

It might make sense for the character, because of different laws as to what is considered legal age (though idk if we even know Harriett's age). But that should not also affect the cosmetics that the players obtain, because they do not have to worry about that issue with them. I don't like that they want to do the censorship for the outfits at all, but it would at least not be as bad if it was only changed for the npc's outfit and not the scratches/mission pass/wherever you get them from.

But for this situation the layering wear isn't really even revealing on Harriet, because she wears the full set, and not whatever less clothed combination players might wear (there are much more revealing outfits that players can already wear though, so this change makes no sense).

@Knight-Raime said in Can we Stop With Pointless Censorship?:

I'm not sure about what got censored in the arks hour as I didn't see it. However the censorship with clothing seems to go inline with NPC clothing and nothing else as far as I know. This "makes sense" because most NPC's are rather young even if legal. Far as the changing of other stuff I can't really say.

I can't say I feel terribly strong about it one way or another though I understand both sides. If Catschief ends up being censored i'll be disappointed for sure. But It won't really ruin my enjoyment of the game.

I believe this was it.

And this is mere Twitter speculation, so take it with a grain of salt.

Presumably, the cause for all the mumbo-jumbo is an outside company with no interest for the artistic rights of the JP developers.

I gotta be honest here, you're looking at a company (SEGA) with a Mature rated game, while they're infamous for the PS"pornable."

(Also, PS5 will literally spy on your conversations. So SEGA might want to check the wiretapping law on that before committing to PSO2 Global.)

The censorship doesn't seem rather necessary, unless you're bowing to an entirely different home base than California.

(In that case, just drop the international branch and let other countries run PSO2 how they want. Your wallet will thank you.) Screenshot_424.jpg

@ZorokiHanuke said in Can we Stop With Pointless Censorship?:

I am assuming that any "new" cosmetic additions to the western client were pre planned long ago. So the team may not be actively censoring stuff, other than the word changes, but simply adding the outfits they had already on queue. It's probably just that (again, as an assumption) those outfits were already edited way before the Global game even released. That's one of the ways I can see the issue with the outfits.

As for word changing? COULD be build based. What's a build? For those who may not know, some games update in what's called a "build", which is simply a 'packaged' more updated version of the game, given by the dev to the publisher to deploy on their region. I'm trying to say this in the simplest words so everyone can see my point. Those builds could have been created months before release, and maybe the older builds didn't have so many edits, while newer builds included the word changing.

Again, this is simply me assuming.

Agreed, could be compete laziness of the predetermined Teen rating they made when they forgot they didn't have the resources.

As the game aged in Japan, so did the content rating increase.

From the person who came from SEA server...this NA version does censor alot. here I thought we will see 0 censorship from NA server.

Honestly while the censorship diesnt bother me, I also don't understand why they are wasting resources to do it. Its not like they censor the panties many people run around in.

@Weirdo

The point I'm making is that npcs are considered characters. And since they are considered characters they don't want people assuming they are cool with lewding what could be seen as kids.

@Knight-Raime said in Can we Stop With Pointless Censorship?:

@Weirdo

The point I'm making is that npcs are considered characters. And since they are considered characters they don't want people assuming they are cool with lewding what could be seen as kids.

This seems like a real strange excuse (if it's what they're going with) to me because in-universe, characters aren't wearing "outfits" and "layering wear" items, they're wearing actual clothes which those game items represent. A Hariette NPC wearing JP hariette basewear and JP hariette innerwear looks the same as a Hariette wearing the Global basewear, and represents a person wearing the same total sum of clothes in-universe.

A player being able to pick and choose portions of an outfit for customization shouldn't make anyone assume that a specific character would wear the same thing.

Hopefully with PSO:NG we will have parity with our Japanese friends overseas instead of the foolishness currently occuring.

Nah, it was me missing out on the older wear commentary.

@Milk said in Can we Stop With Pointless Censorship?:

@Scerms77

You’re being extremely rude. “It doesn’t affect me/I don’t want it so I’ll make fun of someone who does!”

That’s my take from your reply.

The minimum height is 5’0, with most of the shoes it puts you at 5’5. The average height for a US female is 5’4, meaning yes this is tall.

I own all of the flat shoes, some in multiple colors. There isn’t enough options. I have tall characters too that I use heels on but I don’t want that look for my main.

The minimum height is 152cm, or 4'9. This is still quite a bit taller than the JP version though.

So far the censorship that has bothered me the most is the removal of the Smart inner wear. Now it's virtually impossible to make an outfit that doesn't have your character's bra or panties sticking out somewhere. It hit me especially hard recently with the Prowler base wear, the only inner that worked was the Eville Amalti, and even then it still pokes out through the lace.

https://forum.pso2.com/category/61/in-game-suggestions

Is this what happens when the thread about censorship gets locked or dies? Its just the same thing, but a new thread. In the wrong section.

@Aeden

Ah you’re right, I was roughly estimating. Damn USA measurement brain...

Have you tried Silicone inner armor? It’s basically pasties instead of a bra. It’s the only inner armor I could find that doesn’t show through everything, though I’d rather have more variety than that.

I missed that one. I too am bothered by the lack of smart inner.

@Milk said in Can we Stop With Pointless Censorship?:

@Aeden

Ah you’re right, I was roughly estimating. Damn USA measurement brain...

Have you tried Silicone inner armor? It’s basically pasties instead of a bra. It’s the only inner armor I could find that doesn’t show through everything, though I’d rather have more variety than that.

Unfortunately Silicone has a rather large bra, so it shows almost as much as the actual Prowler inner. I also tried Avent Lace, and it pokes out as well.