Are any of the Zieg upgrades better than slave/nemesis yet?

They don’t seem to come close. And god damn did they ruin all progression of weapons with 13*s by going in this order. A little annoying.

Only if you Aug the Cliff weapons to 8. even then, they will be outdated in epe5.

They truly did screw the weapon balance by giving us Nemesis/Raven weapons so early on.