@redBadger22 said in Yerkes Meseta Bots are a problem too:
However, if people continue buying said products at those prices then you're giving them reason to overcharge. If no one buys it, they will continue lowering the prices
The trouble is for many items there was never any alternative. It's pretty clear the items most affected are the ones that a large portion of the player base could never scratch for. Of those three CAST parts linked earlier, Vogulus Arms is by far the most expensive which is no surprise since it came from Recruit Line. A natural solution to this would be allowing all players to be able to generate them.
Dances are a good example of this. The two famous sexy dances are Pole Dance and Chair Dance, whose market difference is night and day. But again, consider when they could be generated. To be clear, my point is not about exploitation. I openly predicted months ago that PC players being able to generate items PC players wanted would balance the market thereafter and Chair Dance really evidences that; its price today must surely be considered reasonably affordable (despite being AC it is cheaper even than easily earned free emotes from older campaigns). My point is about the severe supply restriction of everything that couldn't be generated after May.
It's a shame that tracker site doesn't go back to before the arrival of the Shining Heroes scratch set. It would have been very interesting to know what happened to the price of Dance 9 when it returned. It is the only dance that has reappeared after a long gap. It is now way cheaper than any of the other emotes provided by its original AC sets (Dark Omen and Virtual Stars). Of course since it was available in two sets rather than one, maybe it was even before its recent return. I look forward to another April-era emote returning to see what happens with that.
While I'm busy being off-topic I should also note that this market site must surely provide the final nail in the coffin of the idea that Ship 3 somehow has a bad economy. Without exception, every emote or item reviewed for this post or mentioned in previous posts shows it is very much in line.
Anyway, back to the topic. Cheaters!
@redBadger22 has performed some good investigative and analysis work here. It shouldn't come as any surprise that Yerkes' client orders generate an abusable amount of meseta. I wonder about a couple of the other easily-visible details of these bots, for reasons that should be obvious to most players but that I won't describe in case it clues in any RMT participants.
Solutions to this however are more difficult. Clearly the bots that farm meseta in this way do not need either premium or personal shop passes, because they are only buying junk items from centralised accounts that do have premium (either through spending some of the RMT proceeds on it or some of the meseta on 10* items to generate EX cubes to FUN scratch personal shop passes with).
And it almost doesn't make sense to restrict the trade of junk items; for starters that would interfere with genuine players and exceptional market dynamics such as the great potato surge of 2020. For seconds, they'd just diversify and move on to the next least junky items which would make them harder to identify. In some ways it'd be easier to let them keep using Red Meat until their network has been sufficiently mapped out to drop the hammer on all of them.
Presumably they also have to gather the materials, which means they can bot that much or are using human control at least for that. The latter would mean any obfuscation efforts with gathering (a randomised QTE instead of just pressing B, or a passcode to gather for the first time only in a quest) wouldn't help and would just make gathering take longer for real players. Meanwhile unless they are just turning in Navershrooms with a very high volume of accounts, they are probably clearing a few Explorations as well to unlock other planets.
Must admit I'm struggling to think of a way to prevent bot abuse that wouldn't also substantially change the intention of Yerkes and related meseta sources for real players. It's a bit tricky when his entire purpose is to be a noteworthy meseta injection.