regarding the censorship BS on the steam forums...

@Alexandrious947 said in regarding the censorship BS on the steam forums...:

Lets add some spice to the fire!

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1466A

BAM!

Wow......Thank you got the information!

This thread needs to get close fast!

@Solva-tan said in regarding the censorship BS on the steam forums...:

Don't bother, the GMs won't talk to us here either.

@Solva-tan said in regarding the censorship BS on the steam forums...:

Don't bother, the GMs won't talk to us here either. Don’t need GMs to talk just need them to act! This thread is inappropriate and needs to be removed.

@Alexandrious947 said in regarding the censorship BS on the steam forums...:

Lets add some spice to the fire!

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1466A

BAM!

@RainGnyu And let me provide more information.

https://www.justice.gov/osg/brief/ashcroft-v-free-speech-coalition-merits

The Child Pornography Prevention Act of 1996 (CPPA), prohibits, inter alia, the shipment, distribution, receipt, reproduction, sale, or possession of any visual depiction that "appears to be[] of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct." 18 U.S.C. 2252A, 2256(8)(B) (Supp. V 1999). It also contains a similar prohibition concerning any visual depiction that is "advertised, promoted, presented, described, or distributed in such a manner that conveys the impression that the material is or contains a visual depiction of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct." 18 U.S.C. 2252A, 2256(8)(D) (Supp. V 1999). The question presented is whether those prohibitions violate the First Amendment to the Constitution.

The Act does not cover drawings, cartoons, sculptures, and paintings that depict youthful-looking persons in sexual poses; it supplies an affirmative defense to persons who disseminate visual depictions involving adults who may appear to be children, provided that the depictions are not promoted or presented as child pornography, 18 U.S.C. 2252A(c) (Supp. V 1999)

Based on this, there is legal precedent under US law for PSO2 to be able to remove its censorships as it does not promote nor present itself as child pornography. This is a legal precedent set forth by a Supreme Court case.

Furthermore, 18 U.S. Code § 1466A. states:

Any person who, in a circumstance described in subsection (d), knowingly produces, distributes, receives, or possesses with intent to distribute

This means there must actually be an intent behind to create and distribute child pornography. Sega would not be a person that knowingly produces or has an intent to produce child pornography.

Not to mention, there are precedents set by other games that are far more explicit that go by uncensored, such as Senran Kagura.

@HarmlessSyan said in regarding the censorship BS on the steam forums...:

@Alexandrious947 said in regarding the censorship BS on the steam forums...:

@JuggernautGTX said in regarding the censorship BS on the steam forums...:

btw...megumin from the konosuba collab is (at one point) 13 years old in the Konosuba Light Novel Volume 3 ....yet 50 years old guys can use her as a character in game and do whatever they feel like doing with her (whatever that might be)...why did nobody stand up and defend her virginity from such predators? why is nobody demanding a censorship of the konosuba collab since it portraits underaged girls wich can be abused by guys in game? where are all the outraged posts about it? i tho people care about these things but i have yet to see a post about it...only some guys coming in threads saying "haha pedo you use a small character"

Because in the official english dub, shes 18.

Funny how they change the age like that for our version of games and anime huh?

/golfclap

Got em.

So.... a 13 year old that looks 13 year old is ok as long they say they are 18? I think you are ending up on the other side of where you want to be.

She looks 18 to me? How many 13 year old girls you seen that needs a bra and her bikini swimsuit can hang from the hips?

Oh wait.....you actually see those.....?

......

Wheres the FBI when ya need em? 😬

I'm pretty sure there's already a containment thread in in-game suggestions for you "people."

@Archetype-Luna said in regarding the censorship BS on the steam forums...:

@Alexandrious947 said in regarding the censorship BS on the steam forums...:

Lets add some spice to the fire!

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1466A

BAM!

@RainGnyu And let me provide more information.

https://www.justice.gov/osg/brief/ashcroft-v-free-speech-coalition-merits

The Child Pornography Prevention Act of 1996 (CPPA), prohibits, inter alia, the shipment, distribution, receipt, reproduction, sale, or possession of any visual depiction that "appears to be[] of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct." 18 U.S.C. 2252A, 2256(8)(B) (Supp. V 1999). It also contains a similar prohibition concerning any visual depiction that is "advertised, promoted, presented, described, or distributed in such a manner that conveys the impression that the material is or contains a visual depiction of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct." 18 U.S.C. 2252A, 2256(8)(D) (Supp. V 1999). The question presented is whether those prohibitions violate the First Amendment to the Constitution.

The Act does not cover drawings, cartoons, sculptures, and paintings that depict youthful-looking persons in sexual poses; it supplies an affirmative defense to persons who disseminate visual depictions involving adults who may appear to be children, provided that the depictions are not promoted or presented as child pornography, 18 U.S.C. 2252A(c) (Supp. V 1999)

Based on this, there is legal precedent under US law for PSO2 to be able to remove its censorships as it does not promote nor present itself as child pornography. This is a legal precedent set forth by a Supreme Court case.

Furthermore, 18 U.S. Code § 1466A. states:

Any person who, in a circumstance described in subsection (d), knowingly produces, distributes, receives, or possesses with intent to distribute

This means there must actually be an intent behind to create and distribute child pornography. Sega would not be a person that knowingly produces or has an intent to produce child pornography.

Not to mention, there are precedents set by other games that are far more explicit that go by uncensored, such as Senran Kagura.

Yes, they remove height restrictions and then what happens? Ppl will want the breast restrictions removed next. Cmon, you know what will happen if they remove the censorship.

Also have to remind you that you can fully customize female voices to not only sound childlike, but they moan when getting hit by VIOLENCE as well.

You gotta think harder brah if ya wanna keep away da feds!

@RainGnyu said in regarding the censorship BS on the steam forums...:

@Solva-tan said in regarding the censorship BS on the steam forums...:

Don't bother, the GMs won't talk to us here either.

@Solva-tan said in regarding the censorship BS on the steam forums...:

Don't bother, the GMs won't talk to us here either. Don’t need GMs to talk just need them to act! This thread is inappropriate and needs to be removed.

I agree! Time to end thread!

@Alexandrious947 said in regarding the censorship BS on the steam forums...:

She looks 18 to me? How many 13 year old girls you seen that needs a bra and her bikini swimsuit can hang from the hips?

Oh wait.....you actually see those.....?

......

Wheres the FBI when ya need em? 😬

I don't know what you are seeing but seems like maybe the FBI should probably give you the visit at this point.

I'm just saying your argument for Megumin is basically the same as people been using for the height issue.

Too bad I can't quote my posts in the nuked threads or locked thread - but my stance is that height restriction is probably not going away on global.

@treos100 Just letting you know that while i have agreed for a long time that the censorship and height restriction are dumb, SEGA NA has made it abundantly clear that they are a Pro Censorship Company and strongly believe that censoring PSO2 is the right decision. Its for reasons like this that they allow those who rally against the censorship to be harassed and take absolutely no action in regards to the matter.

At this point asking them to step in is just wasting your breath.

@HarmlessSyan said in regarding the censorship BS on the steam forums...:

@Alexandrious947 said in regarding the censorship BS on the steam forums...:

She looks 18 to me? How many 13 year old girls you seen that needs a bra and her bikini swimsuit can hang from the hips?

Oh wait.....you actually see those.....?

......

Wheres the FBI when ya need em? 😬

I don't know what you are seeing but seems like maybe the FBI should probably give you the visit at this point.

I'm just saying your argument for Megumin is basically the same as people been using for the height issue.

Too bad I can't quote my posts in the nuked threads or locked thread - but my stance is that height restriction is probably not going away on global.

Why should they? According to the anime and the dub wiki she is 18. 🙂

@Alexandrious947 And according to the light novel, she's 14.

@Archetype-Luna said in regarding the censorship BS on the steam forums...:

@Alexandrious947 And according to the light novel, she's 14.

You read light novels?

What a weeb. 😀

Also the light novels are not officially dubbed for our region.

/golfclap

@Alexandrious947 perhaps I'm just confused to what you are saying about bra and bikini and Megumin looking 18, to me she does not, at least not the promotional pictures - I'm not exactly into the series that much, only snippets and clips here and there.