Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.

@RainGnyu

No this is Global now!

@RainGnyu said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

There you go..........no one said anything about that P word! There you go with accusations when your side keeps bring it up the P word up. All we said was that their legal situation leading to the censorship.

Except Laep did in a previous post.

@Laep said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

Really glad to see the height restriction still in effect in NGS. Great that Sega isnt bending the knee to child groomers and old men who fantasize about being little girls.

Very clearly saying that if Sega removed the censorship, they would be bending the knee to pedophiles, a false statement.

@RainGnyu said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

This is NA not JP! Stop trying to bring your fail attempts on JP thinking you will succeed on NA. Just have fun or move to FFXIV where you can get the satisfaction you so desperately need.

This isn't even JP thinking. This is just stating facts. I am playing FFXIV while replying to these posts (cause dual monitors makes it easy); also just pre-ordered the digital collectors edition for the Endwalker expansion and also bought the Lunar Whale mount so just spent about $100 there. It is a fact that FFXIV has a unified service and it is a fact that FFXIV is currently more popular and doing much better than FFXIV. Rather than trying to deflect my points, try to actually address them. It isn't a fail attempt on this so called JP thinking; it's stating the facts.

FFXIV has a unified service, meaning across NA, EU, JP, and Oceania (for which they are setting up an entirely new datacenter), they have the same client, availability, and monetization. This allows for any of these regions to directly communicate with the developers without another company acting as a middleman. Communication with developers is important for any modern live service game, regardless of region.

Also, this isn't NA, this is PSO2 Global. Yet for some reason, Global is separated from JP, which is from the evidence that is the entire service history of the PSO franchise, is Sega's main focus and is what they consider to be their core audience. There is no good reason why JP should be a separate region from Global.

@RainGnyu said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

@MasterDarkwingz said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

@Laep Literally all I want is to be 155 with my heels and not 158. I already debunked the pedo theory on the last few pages.

(17 is the general young adult phase of the target audience anyways.)

There you go..........no one said anything about that P word! There you go with accusations when your side keeps bring it up the P word up. All we said was that their legal situation leading to the censorship.

Laep was insinuating it, Rain. Quit heating up the temperature here.

while they are not "working" on the censor stuff (i myself now doubt that will ever happen) they at least worked on optimization - game runs so smooth on ultra settings - no issues during a closed beta....i mean am i playing phantasy star right now? what happened - i expected a full weekend maintenance and probably 30 minutes of playtime while they shut servers down after a "fix" causes 10 more issues - man i love the game - kinda giving up on that censorship thing SEGA got me

@Archetype-Luna said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

@RainGnyu said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

There you go..........no one said anything about that P word! There you go with accusations when your side keeps bring it up the P word up. All we said was that their legal situation leading to the censorship.

Except Laep did in a previous post.

@Laep said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

Really glad to see the height restriction still in effect in NGS. Great that Sega isnt bending the knee to child groomers and old men who fantasize about being little girls.

Very clearly saying that if Sega removed the censorship, they would be bending the knee to pedophiles, a false statement.

He never said that you did and that is false accusations!

@Laep said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

@Teasa I work for the government so I see the world quite a bit. Ever get out of your basement and meet people besides children on Discord?

I remember you posted somewhere on here that you worked for the postal service, you can correct me if I'm wrong. That said, if I'm remembering correctly, you aren't seeing much of the world from your position, only the neighborhoods you've worked in, nothing more. That's what, maybe a few city blocks? Also, still hard up on calling everyone here a pedo indirectly, grow up. It's a video game, it's not real, and I should be able to have the same options players within the core audience over in Japan have.

You hate real groomers so much, get off your computer, get out of these forums, and go train to be in the FBI or something. Maybe then you can make real differences where real innocent people are involved. Deal with real trafficking cases, and work to fix the nasty real world issues beneath the surface of what society sees. But you won't do that, your just a clout chaser, making these comments so someone somewhere can call you based. A troll nothing more nothing less.

You aren't working to fix real world issues, because all you do is come on here and talk shit about people you know nothing about. You judge people before you know them, and anyone that wants X character, or Y character are sickos, perverts, or "child groomers" or coomers as you've said in the past. I'm sick of that behaviour, and mentality. Stop trying to derail the thread, stop trying to get it locked.

@JuggernautGTX said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

while they are not "working" on the censor stuff (i myself now doubt that will ever happen) they at least worked on optimization - game runs so smooth on ultra settings - no issues during a closed beta....i mean am i playing phantasy star right now? what happened - i expected a full weekend maintenance and probably 30 minutes of playtime while they shut servers down after a "fix" causes 10 more issues - man i love the game - kinda giving up on that censorship thing SEGA got me

I get where you are coming from, mostly in the same boat, except for the character options, I don't care about the other stuff anymore, haven't for a while as we are in episode six. The other censors are moot, but body morphing restrictions on short characters are still in effect, so I can't accurately re-create a character, and it's annoying. My thing is even with all the good stuff they did with optimization, them ignoring what we said during the survey months ago is disappointing. Its like why bother communication if I'm talking to a wall, even if that wall paid me in SG.

@RainGnyu I did not accuse him of calling me a pedophile. I am stating that his statement is false.

@Laep said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

Really glad to see the height restriction still in effect in NGS. Great that Sega isnt bending the knee to child groomers and old men who fantasize about being little girls.

I said his post was "Very clearly saying that if Sega removed the censorship, they would be bending the knee to pedophiles, a false statement." In other words, he was making the statement that if the censorship was removed that Sega would be catering to pedophiles. Doesn't matter if he was directly calling me a pedophile or not. I am saying that he is making a false statement that removing censorship would be catering to pedophiles. Laep is the one that brought up it up.

No one on the anti-censorship side wants to bring up the pedophilia argument, but it is keeps being brought back up by the pro-censorship side.

@Anarchy-Marine said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

@Laep said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

@Teasa I work for the government so I see the world quite a bit. Ever get out of your basement and meet people besides children on Discord?

I remember you posted somewhere on here that you worked for the postal service, you can correct me if I'm wrong. That said, if I'm remembering correctly, you aren't seeing much of the world from your position, only the neighborhoods you've worked in, nothing more. That's what, maybe a few city blocks? Also, still hard up on calling everyone here a pedo indirectly, grow up. It's a video game, it's not real, and I should be able to have the same options players within the core audience over in Japan have.

You hate real groomers so much, get off your computer, get out of these forums, and go train to be in the FBI or something. Maybe then you can make real differences where real innocent people are involved. Deal with real trafficking cases, and work to fix the nasty real world issues beneath the surface of what society sees. But you won't do that, your just a clout chaser, making these comments so someone somewhere can call you based. A troll nothing more nothing less.

You aren't working to fix real world issues, because all you do is come on here and talk shit about people you know nothing about. You judge people before you know them, and anyone that wants X character, or Y character are sickos, perverts, or "child groomers" or coomers as you've said in the past. I'm sick of that behaviour, and mentality. Stop trying to derail the thread, stop trying to get it locked.

He never said those thing........you guys are. False accusations is what I see you guys doing to make your dissatisfaction more creditable or more meaningful.......pick one?

@Archetype-Luna said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

@RainGnyu I did not accuse him of calling me a pedophile. I am stating that his statement is false.

@Laep said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

Really glad to see the height restriction still in effect in NGS. Great that Sega isnt bending the knee to child groomers and old men who fantasize about being little girls.

I said his post was "Very clearly saying that if Sega removed the censorship, they would be bending the knee to pedophiles, a false statement." In other words, he was making the statement that if the censorship was removed that Sega would be catering to pedophiles. Doesn't matter if he was directly calling me a pedophile or not. I am saying that he is making a false statement that removing censorship would be catering to pedophiles. Laep is the one that brought up it up.

No one on the anti-censorship side wants to bring up the pedophilia argument, but it is keeps being brought back up by the pro-censorship side.

No where in his or her post did he or her use the P-word. You keep shouting it for some reason......you and your group are the only one saying that P-word.

@RainGnyu said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

@Archetype-Luna said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

@RainGnyu I did not accuse him of calling me a pedophile. I am stating that his statement is false.

@Laep said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

Really glad to see the height restriction still in effect in NGS. Great that Sega isnt bending the knee to child groomers and old men who fantasize about being little girls.

I said his post was "Very clearly saying that if Sega removed the censorship, they would be bending the knee to pedophiles, a false statement." In other words, he was making the statement that if the censorship was removed that Sega would be catering to pedophiles. Doesn't matter if he was directly calling me a pedophile or not. I am saying that he is making a false statement that removing censorship would be catering to pedophiles. Laep is the one that brought up it up.

No one on the anti-censorship side wants to bring up the pedophilia argument, but it is keeps being brought back up by the pro-censorship side.

No where in his or her post did he or her use the P-word. You keep shouting it for some reason......you and your group are the only one saying that P-word.

He was only using the word as Leap post was heavily implying it without saying it you mong. Then again you have history of goalpost shifting anyway so this isn't new with you, like i said, you are no better than deep red stat arty player in World of Tanks. And Troll that got nothing better to do.

@Archetype-Luna I'd block him, Lord knows I already did. He, from what you are posting is feigning ignorance to the fact that calling someone a child groomer, or a child predator or any adjacent thing is using other words to call someone a pedo, in the same way rapists are under the umbrella of the title of sex offender. He's pretending to be ignorant to draw out the argument, something Rain is known for. I'm honestly surprised he hasn't been perma banned yet. It's why I blocked him a long time ago.

Back to the censorship theory debunking...

Reddit mentioned Loli/Shota as a possibility, and we're already aware of Twitter's negligence in preventing cyberbullying of Japanese artists.

It seems that the Hentai of Loli/Shota was banned on Twitter sometime in 2019. (Prior to official NA-> Global launch.)

Considering that the JP devs already know their audience's lewd Social Media behavior, the outrage preventative stance looks more likely.

^ All of this doesn't change the fact that Microsoft simply didn't HAVE to be the investor if PSO2 as it is in JP doesn't meet their standards.

It could've been literally any indie studio.

So I'm kind of interested in SEGA's opinion of having Play Asia on the localization team.

I think they could take more of the heat that SEGA's worried about.

But that kind of financial contract shuffling isn't easy work.

Most we'd likely see out of Play Asia assisting SEGA's Global team would be the merchandising distribution sector.

But they'd probably just prefer Epic's merchandising team to save the extra cash, so there's no point in speculating further potential.

And again, the legal issues with collab items does not equate into prevention of a complete JP+Global merger.

It's the censorship which literally changes up the data to create that situation.

(Region locking of item trade and can be done in the same way the Account Bound items work.)

Even though there are removal of the AC Scratch access in certain regions, the Netherlands/Belgium still has a blanket ban.

PSO2 can never be there, and that's all there is to the legal issues standpoint.

The US would only regulate Loot Boxes as a Virtual Casino with need for ID on setting up an account, so I can't see SEGA removing the Scratch feature in favor of the Bundle system anytime soon. (Presuming the Senate Bill gets passed. Casinos=Ca-ching. Except for Hawaii.)

@MasterDarkwingz In regards to the scratch tickets, they aren't loot boxes in the sense that you cant sell the items you dont want to other players in the average loot box mechanic, whereas scratch tickets do. Yea you are gambling for a chance to get what you want, however if you dont, you can sell your unwanted items in game, and use that income to buy the items you do. So I dont think it will be affected either way, as what they are targeting with that bill is the more scummy loot boxes that force you to repeatedly spend until you get what you want.

@Anarchy-Marine said in Can we not cut out anymore story scenes and stop it with censorship in general.:

@MasterDarkwingz In regards to the scratch tickets, they aren't loot boxes in the sense that you cant sell the items you dont want to other players in the average loot box mechanic, where's scratch tickets do. Yea you are gambling for a chance to get what you want, however if you dont, you can sell your unwanted items in game, and use that income to buy the items you do. So I dont think it will be affected either way, as what they are targeting with that bill is the more scummy loot boxes that force you to repeatedly spend until you get what you want.

The Affix/Enhance ones will still be free game for regulators to target, though. (Due to status bonuses.)

I think the FTC's Loot Box Workshop meeting was in 2019.

They gave the industry 5 years to self regulate before anything official takes place. (Meanwhile, EA faces more lawsuits.)

So Scratch is merely a longevity issue in terms of marketing for a Global PSO2 audience with minimal effort for fast cash.

Doesn't change the fact that we had a Netherlands user begging on the forums for PSO2 to be released there due to legislative censorship.

NGS CBT had free tickets, and I have not seen any official free ticket events for NGS Scratches on the JP website as of yet.

Daily free scratches will do nothing for poor Netherlands in any case.