"or Encourage Alliance Activity!"

With reference to this section of the campaign page, what does "Encourage Alliance Activity" mean?

The only two listings in the table describe a "returning player". That's not encouraging alliance activity. That's just bothering someone to log in again. Alliance activity makes it sound like small active alliances can still qualify by earning a set amount of AP. If this is true can it please be updated on the table?

I really hope this campaign isn't just limited to the alliances of players who put the game down within a month of PC release and can be contacted. That would be seriously and needlessly unfair on many of us where we happened not to be in such an alliance.

On another note, is there even any way to know the last time an alliance member logged in so players who don't even qualify won't be unnecessarily spammed by their alliance?

So I just went through the entire list of people in my alliance to try and find out when they had last played.

Being that the alliance itself was founded in June, the outlook was never good. From what I can see, there are just two realistic prospects for players who've put the game down, and three or four others whose Gamertags are private so we can't really know (I don't think PSO2 itself tells you the last time an alliance member was online).

I shared a quick sample of that research with the PSO2 discord - with names and anything identifiable censored - and was called a stalker. Just for illustrative purposes here's an even more redacted version with a few summaries:

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I get the intention behind this campaign, but to include what is probably an exclusive emote is really screwing people for having small, tight-knit, active or simply new alliances.

Unless "alliance activity" provides an alternative means to qualify. Which it really should.

"**If the returning player belongs to Alliances on multiple Ships, all members of each Alliance will receive the reward. However, the reward can only be received once by both the affected Alliance members and the player.

***All members of the Alliance that the returning player belongs to will receive the reward."

@Snow said in "or Encourage Alliance Activity!":

"**If the returning player belongs to Alliances on multiple Ships, all members of each Alliance will receive the reward. However, the reward can only be received once by both the affected Alliance members and the player.

***All members of the Alliance that the returning player belongs to will receive the reward."

I know. The topic refers to that. Both of those smallprint notes require alliances to have at least one returning player, do they not? That is a problem.

what i really wonder is, do those returning players need to be part of that alliance or is it possible for a returning player to join an alliance for the effect to still count.if it's that i'll hop on my 2nd account and invite myself.

@ShAdOnIc Yeah most alliances if they are active prune inactive members. The ones that don't are usually dead or small and have a tight-knit communication channels with their old members. People with second accounts that never log in will have the biggest advantage here. Encourage alliance activity should be more along the lines of, completing UQs or something together as a qualifier.

@ShAdOnIc said in "or Encourage Alliance Activity!":

what i really wonder is, do those returning players need to be part of that alliance or is it possible for a returning player to join an alliance for the effect to still count.

Yeah, this part makes it really unclear. The last alliance campaign required you to be in a qualifying alliance the moment the campaign ended, so you couldn't just join and leave during the campaign.

If it's anything like that, it's sensible to expect players' accounts will be labelled as returning if they logged in after 24 July when their previous login on record was 23 June. Beyond that, alliances will probably be given a one-time check at the end of the campaign to see if they contain any returning accounts all players in the alliance during that maintenance will qualify.

This would mean returning players couldn't temporarily join a lot of alliances to help them all get this emote.


@Eri-Natori said in "or Encourage Alliance Activity!":

People with second accounts that never log in will have the biggest advantage here. Encourage alliance activity should be more along the lines of, completing UQs or something together as a qualifier.

Yeah, it just doesn't make sense to call this "alliance activity". How much activity is someone who's put the game down for a month really going to encourage? Especially on PC where qualifying as returning means they put the game down within a month of its release, so either they aren't interested in the game or they're waiting for the PC issues to be fixed - which means they won't be active, as those issues haven't been fixed.