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@Neosolidus12 said in Open Beta Premium Subscription/Service:

To me seems silly to prevent us " founders" from getting a special tittle/cosmetic item just because a year from now someone with ocd will join the game and that not being able to get the same might upset them.

Decisions should be made in favor of the majority of people not the few, if not being able to get everything bothers someone then they are playing the wrong type of game.

Also remember life is not fair and everyone is NOT entitled to everything.

+1

the majority isnt responsible for the lack of dedication of the minority. plus we are already past the point of no return on this because of the closed beta rewards that they will never get. titles are so meaningless anyways i cant imagine anyone caring.. nomatter how bad their "ocd" is (the mental illness of others is also not the problem of the majority).

infact let us ACTUALLY become founders for the first month of release and drop 200$ for a bunch of stuff that specifically rewards us! permanent account wide 5% tri boost, dumb hats, a special mag cell, etc. are all fair game as far as im concerned!

@Neosolidus12 said in Open Beta Premium Subscription/Service:

@Rantious said in Open Beta Premium Subscription/Service:

@Neosolidus12 said in Open Beta Premium Subscription/Service:

To me seems silly to prevent us " founders" from getting a special tittle/cosmetic item just because a year from now someone with ocd will join the game and that not being able to get the same might upset them.

Decisions should be made in favor of the majority of people not the few, if not being able to get everything bothers someone then they are playing the wrong type of game.

Also remember life is not fair and everyone is NOT entitled to everything.

Counter point, we can work to make life as fair as possible for all people because we are, after all, playing make believe in a virtual environment that doesn't necessarily subscribe to the same "life is not fair" rules as the real world.

Additionally doesn't your, "in favor of the majority" mentality actually work against you in this case? The "majority" of people who will come to play this game (hopefully) in say 2 years will likely NOT have participated in the CBT/OBT. Making those of us here now effectively the minority in the future.

Hm... lets say that for the sake of argument there are 100 million people in this country eligible to vote, lets say that only 10 million show up to the polls and vote, to win the election a candidate needs 51% of the votes which turns out to be 5.1 million votes or 5.1% of the total population, yet we would still say that the winner would have been elected by the MAJORITY of people because only those that are here and now and decided to cast the ballot matter, anyone not present is irrelevant.

So it would be illogical for current players to be limited based on what someone who is not currently a player think, wants or could want, they are irrelevant.

A year from now there will be a different limited whatchamacallit that the "potential" players of two years from now won't get , so on and so forth the cycle goes.

It WOULD be illogical... If that was the way that this thought experiment worked. Your analogy goes wrong in assuming that the 100 million population is a constant from the start. In this scenario it is not.

To pull from your example, imagine right now we have 5 million people where only 2 million are voting/participating.

In 2 years (or whatever other arbitrary timeframe), the population will have grown to 20 million (or whatever other arbitrary inflation factor... Hopefully. If the server population doesn't grow that's a different problem entirely...).

So my reasoning that OBT/CBT participants will still be the minority still holds. Because no matter what, assuming a healthy population increase, the player base will grow in such a way that the number of people in CBT/OBT will make up a fraction of the future player base.

Also in your scenario what limitations are being placed on current/CBT/OBT players?

@Rantious said in Open Beta Premium Subscription/Service:

@Neosolidus12 said in Open Beta Premium Subscription/Service:

@Rantious said in Open Beta Premium Subscription/Service:

@Neosolidus12 said in Open Beta Premium Subscription/Service:

To me seems silly to prevent us " founders" from getting a special tittle/cosmetic item just because a year from now someone with ocd will join the game and that not being able to get the same might upset them.

Decisions should be made in favor of the majority of people not the few, if not being able to get everything bothers someone then they are playing the wrong type of game.

Also remember life is not fair and everyone is NOT entitled to everything.

Counter point, we can work to make life as fair as possible for all people because we are, after all, playing make believe in a virtual environment that doesn't necessarily subscribe to the same "life is not fair" rules as the real world.

Additionally doesn't your, "in favor of the majority" mentality actually work against you in this case? The "majority" of people who will come to play this game (hopefully) in say 2 years will likely NOT have participated in the CBT/OBT. Making those of us here now effectively the minority in the future.

Hm... lets say that for the sake of argument there are 100 million people in this country eligible to vote, lets say that only 10 million show up to the polls and vote, to win the election a candidate needs 51% of the votes which turns out to be 5.1 million votes or 5.1% of the total population, yet we would still say that the winner would have been elected by the MAJORITY of people because only those that are here and now and decided to cast the ballot matter, anyone not present is irrelevant.

So it would be illogical for current players to be limited based on what someone who is not currently a player think, wants or could want, they are irrelevant.

A year from now there will be a different limited whatchamacallit that the "potential" players of two years from now won't get , so on and so forth the cycle goes.

It WOULD be illogical... If that was the way that this thought experiment worked. Your analogy goes wrong in assuming that the 100 million population is a constant from the start. In this scenario it is not.

To pull from your example, imagine right now we have 5 million people where only 2 million are voting/participating.

In 2 years (or whatever other arbitrary timeframe), the population will have grown to 20 million (or whatever other arbitrary inflation factor... Hopefully. If the server population doesn't grow that's a different problem entirely...).

So my reasoning that OBT/CBT participants will still be the minority still holds. Because no matter what, assuming a healthy population increase, the player base will grow in such a way that the number of people in CBT/OBT will make up a fraction of the future player base.

Also in your scenario what limitations are being placed on current/CBT/OBT players?

hm...... It seems clear to me that it would be pointless to continue this discussion since you appear incapable of applying common sense to a simple post, you are right I am wrong I am moving on.