For those who are expecting "We'll maybe get other ways to get SGs", because NA Manual originally had casino in it: They removed it.

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So here is a massive disappointment waiting for it to happen.

FYI, ARKS League still gives 100k tickets, and Ranking rewards are no SGs. And no. They removed PVP one too. So it's just the following. If you don't believe it, go check it in Manual itself.

No, they don't have challenge mode too.

So, how many people are going to still expect SEGA to bring other ways to get SG besides paying? Because you are now asking for something from 5% chance of them doing it to 0% chance of them doing it.

You mean like how they removed the manual bits about how to download the game through steam?

@coldreactive said in For those who are expecting "We'll maybe get other ways to get SGs", because NA Manual originally had casino in it: They removed it.:

You mean like how they originally removed the manual bits about how to download the game through steam?

Yes.

Except now they aren't exactly hiding about it anymore. There is -NO- way to get SGs besides buying, login, story mode (which is one time), and outfits from AC scratches.

At this point, if people are denying that SEGA will fix it without actually making press conference or make a news about it with confirmed patches - then people should not sit down and say "They'll fix it". Because that's bs. For a while, I had been saying how SG shops like Ethan/Karen outfit was just a ripoff for what they give, and that has not changed it.

Yeah, I'm not going to use these SG tickets nor try to chase them. Not worth it to me.

@LapisWave Yeah I checked the manual after seeing the SG scratch show up today and was incredibly disheartened to see this. if the "deal" bundles for SG's weren't scummy to people this definitely should be.

I will still wait to see if they get to what the JP server is, glad I didn't spend that much in NA...

@Frost-Soar said in For those who are expecting "We'll maybe get other ways to get SGs", because NA Manual originally had casino in it: They removed it.:

I will still wait to see if they get to what the JP server is, glad I didn't spend that much in NA...

Even if NA gets the additional forms of getting SG in-game that JP has, it'll still be missing the extra forms from the smartphone games (PSO2es and Idola Phantasy Star), and the fact that JP has less SG sinks won't change (JP doesn't have fresh finds shop, doesn't have the battle pass system, and the SG scratches last much longer and have half the amount of items, so we're more likely to get what we want per try on JP).

I should slow down my spending now. I already got enough ragol packs for a few months of spending. I think I'll use my remaining AC for more storage expansion.

Their way to add more SG for now is to always have an SG reward based campaign running.

Is it enough to buy everything? Nope. Isn't meant to and never will. You have to make a choice of what to save for or open the wallet.

Want them to change it? Gotta have the impulse control to close the wallet. Start a petition and get everyone to sign it who can also control their impulses and close their wallet.

It has worked on several gacha style cellphone games. It can work here if we can exercise restraint.

Or they will just throw up their arms, pretend to be flabbergasted and go "hmm this game doesn't make money here. Welp time to stop porting PS games for another 10 years!"

@John-Paul-RAGE I personally feel like everybody shouldn't have everything. The people constantly posting about things like the Mission Pass and how they can't have EVERY SINGLE ITEM and have to MAKE CHOICES just make me shake my head. In no free to play game is a play supposed to be able to get every single item.

I get the feeling sometimes that a lot of players have never played a f2p MMO before and are just going from their experience from games like FFXIV. If that's the comparison point, they're always going to be disappointed. Hell, players need to stop trying to compare NA to JP.

@Lorient said in For those who are expecting "We'll maybe get other ways to get SGs", because NA Manual originally had casino in it: They removed it.:

The people constantly posting about things like the Mission Pass and how they can't have EVERY SINGLE ITEM and have to MAKE CHOICES just make me shake my head.

Yes, hi, hello, I see you. I would be less unhappy about the mission pass betrayal if it was done to everyone equally. If season 6 doesn't let everyone get all of the new items, well that still sucks for sure, but it wouldn't come over like an act of malice towards PC players.

In any case that's just an off-topic snipe that distracts from the PSA of this topic. Some content is intended to be collectable and other content is not. Unlike mission pass where it is mentioned in the announcements, you are clearly not meant to get everything from scratch sets. But that doesn't make it a good thing to remove SG sources that all players can easily see are available on JP.

Removal from the manual is a distressing move because it makes the statement that we are never getting SG from the casino. Maybe that wasn't their intention. Maybe our community team are pleading with the developers of Sega Japan to add it in, but are removing it from the manual in the meantime to make it more immediately accurate and to avoid misleading players or giving them false hope.

But as with a few other things: If this is what they've done and why, it would be a very positive and helpful thing for them to share that with players so we don't unnecessarily fret about the loss of something that might be arriving soon anyway.

@Miraglyth said in For those who are expecting "We'll maybe get other ways to get SGs", because NA Manual originally had casino in it: They removed it.:

@Lorient said in For those who are expecting "We'll maybe get other ways to get SGs", because NA Manual originally had casino in it: They removed it.:

The people constantly posting about things like the Mission Pass and how they can't have EVERY SINGLE ITEM and have to MAKE CHOICES just make me shake my head.

Yes, hi, hello, I see you. I would be less unhappy about the mission pass betrayal if it was done to everyone equally. If season 6 doesn't let everyone get all of the new items, well that still sucks for sure, but it wouldn't come over like an act of malice towards PC players.

In any case that's just an off-topic snipe that distracts from the PSA of this topic. Some content is intended to be collectable and other content is not.

I'll be honest, I can understand your want for the items, but you post about it everywhere. I've seen you post the same thing on completely unrelated posts on the official Twitter. After a while, a broken record starts to sound grating. Not everything is an illuminati plot to screw over PC players.

@Lorient said in For those who are expecting "We'll maybe get other ways to get SGs", because NA Manual originally had casino in it: They removed it.:

I've seen you post the same thing on completely unrelated posts on the official Twitter.

I'm persistent, I'll give me that! Seriously though, I will own up to having done that twice lately if you really want to consider the flavour tweet with the Zelsius outfit "completely unrelated". Personally I don't. As someone who should take the Zamlord option by virtue of having a male character it's a reminder of the problem.

I'm sorry it's annoying to see someone else having an avoidable problem with the game and speaking up about it on behalf of an entire platform. Trust me, it's even more annoying to be having the problem in the first place. But since you basically namecalled me in a topic meant to be about SG you're not really setting a good example for not making unrelated complaints. And as a reminder my response to the SG scratch tweet not only didn't mention mission pass as you suggest but is also one of the most-liked responses so clearly it's saying something agreeable.

I appreciate that you understand the problem, but mind if we get back to the topic now?

@Lorient said in For those who are expecting "We'll maybe get other ways to get SGs", because NA Manual originally had casino in it: They removed it.:

@Miraglyth said in For those who are expecting "We'll maybe get other ways to get SGs", because NA Manual originally had casino in it: They removed it.:

@Lorient said in For those who are expecting "We'll maybe get other ways to get SGs", because NA Manual originally had casino in it: They removed it.:

The people constantly posting about things like the Mission Pass and how they can't have EVERY SINGLE ITEM and have to MAKE CHOICES just make me shake my head.

Yes, hi, hello, I see you. I would be less unhappy about the mission pass betrayal if it was done to everyone equally. If season 6 doesn't let everyone get all of the new items, well that still sucks for sure, but it wouldn't come over like an act of malice towards PC players.

In any case that's just an off-topic snipe that distracts from the PSA of this topic. Some content is intended to be collectable and other content is not.

I'll be honest, I can understand your want for the items, but you post about it everywhere. I've seen you post the same thing on completely unrelated posts on the official Twitter. After a while, a broken record starts to sound grating. Not everything is an illuminati plot to screw over PC players.

and thank God for ppl like @Miraglyth bringing BS to attention. If he's a record imma play that !@#$ on repeat. Keep it up.