@ERICK001BC said in How about fixing the scammer spammer problem?:
Can't tell if you are serious or not. It has nothing to do with policing, has nothing to do with snitching or anything of that matter. It has to do with being the right thing to do. As far as perspectives go there are many things that are right and wrong and can be abused. But trying to justify yourself to breaking rules is something completely different. EVERYONE is able to report, that is why the option is there. Any false reports tend to back fire on those who misuse the system. The only people that should be afraid of a report system are the ones who are breaking the rules in the first place. If you want to read the code and conducts of both the forum and the game, that information is available.
See, you automatically assume, by what I say, I'm somehow a rule breaker by default. You either know I'm right, or haven't been online long enough to see how easily report systems, with way too many options, can be abused, or used as a weapon by someone who is mentally unstable, or just a bad person.
The report system is fine as is, because to report someone for most cases, as you said, requires "other" as the selected option. It forces you to write out a short description, which will either deter false reports, or cause them to state something in the report, that if isn't breaking any rules, would then render the report ignored. Logic would dictate, "other", forces admins to actually investigate the situation. Whereas what you suggested, would allow a one button press, that could easily be used for blanket views of offense, or misconduct that wouldn't be as thoroughly investigated.
If you think there wouldn't be people that get away with abusing such a system, look to any other game, gaming platform, or social media site, that implemented such a system, and tell me there hasn't been people that got away with it. Easiest example would be Twitter, or Facebook. Xbox live gets plenty of false reports that go through. People have been banned for no reason before, other than they posted something from in game on their activity feed, which is allowed on Xbox Live. Because its mostly an automated system, and because enough people made the report, said reports were enough grounds for the algorithm to ban people, some of which were my friends.
Yes, some of them were unbanned the next day, because they called customer support, but not everyone wants to deal with that headache. Nothing happened to those who falsely report someone on Xbox Live, because I've had friends get stalked by people like this for some time, (as some have a mass following) with the only solution being to private their account.
Those options don't exist in Phantasy Star. Nobody can just set their stuff to friends only, or private.
Again, you shouldn't make it your goal to report every little thing, because in many instances, they aren't actually harming the community at large. It's ones own interpretation of the rules, their perspective that would shape the way they would use the report function. But that being said, many don't bother to read those rules, and those that do, often times misunderstand them, or dont understand why those rules are even needed.
I've been gaming online for years, and I can tell you, what you propose opens all the wrong doors, and I'd much rather have it be commonplace for people to be adults in a mature game, and walk away from situations they don't like, rather than argue, belittle,or report someone for it. In most cases all three are childish, and in the case of a report, that should only ever be a last resort option. Or again the option for dealing with bots.
I've said my piece about this, that's my opinion. You are entitled to yours, but my years online tell me that you are wrong, and no veiled personal attack, ( as you made the point to tell me to read the code of conduct/ToS which I already throughly read) about how in your eyes, I obviously break rules for having such a view, will change that stance.