Suggestion: Please stop trade-locking SG sale items or start bringing the AC scratches for said items so F2P players have more options to obtain them.

After seeing the SG sale with the PSU items I'm actually somewhat miffed that the items aren't tradable. I'm not spending 950 SG for it but I do want the items, so I can't even bum it off someone else that doesn't want their outfits.

Can we just start getting AC scratch item banners instead of these SG sales in the future? I know for a fact there was an AC Scratch with the Phantasy Star Universe themed items in it and it's actually somewhat disappointing to see that this was the route taken to bring these items to NA.

If this starts to become a norm for SG sales it'll severely start to hurt public opinion of the game, especially learning that at one point or another these items were available (and marketable/tradable to those that didnt wanna spend on it).

Not to mention, sources of SG in NA are gutted right now with Casino not having options to redeem for SG, Time Attacks that aren't posted correctly, and presumably these ARKS Leagues that may or may not offer SG rewards in the future. (These points were already brought up/addressed in other topics)

tl;dr - Bring the AC Scratches for these items instead and stop locking them behind pricy SG sales. We can do that, can't we?

Lapiswave has made a similar thread - https://forum.pso2.com/topic/2449/this-new-sg-sale-is-absolutely-wrong/2 But I thought I'd put it here since we can count it as a "suggestion" for future improvement.

For any future feedback, please avoid namecalling/flaming each other. The point of this post is to try and bring constructive ideas and/or support for the main idea of the thread

I agree with this statement. We aren't asking devs to stop bringing stuffs. We are asking devs to make the right marketing decision by not changing item sales from JP and giving only partial rewards for expensive price to NA.

SGs are also currently hard to farm in NA especially with the current rewards the game gives. Please, PLEASE change it before releasing this.

This thread has been seen and the sentiment has been registered. Thank you!

@GM-Deynger said in Suggestion: Please stop trade-locking SG sale items or start bringing the AC scratches for said items so F2P players have more options to obtain them.:

This thread has been seen and the sentiment has been registered. Thank you!

Thank you for being the best messenger. 😊

I agree with Aster Larkspur's post.

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I just find it hilarious how near everyone posting here does not have a clue whats really going on. Those that do rather not say or post anything cuz it would not be worth explaining it.

So ill just say this.

Theirs a reason why theirs so much GM/MOD/PSO2 staff activity happening right now. Theirs a reason for these cash grab sales.
Theirs a reason for pretty much everything you all is finding wrong here.

And SEGA is playing you all like a Fiddle.

Been playing mmos since Everquest Kunark, from ALL, the different countries who makes them. This is so damn obvious to me that even after seeing whats going on here, that I seen in many other mmos, I still find it friggen hilarious.

Ah well.

I give it a few more months, and all of you will just accept things. Should be another worldly lesson for alot of ya.

yawns welp, back to my single player games while waiting for this to be out. Think ill spend a hundred or two at first, then limit it to maybe 40 a month after. Not really much I want so far. Things I need however, yea, about 30-40 bucks will do.

Heh. So much lulz in this forum.

@Alexandrious947 said in Suggestion: Please stop trade-locking SG sale items or start bringing the AC scratches for said items so F2P players have more options to obtain them.:

I just find it hilarious how near everyone posting here does not have a clue whats really going on. Those that do rather not say or post anything cuz it would not be worth explaining it.

So ill just say this.

Theirs a reason why theirs so much GM/MOD/PSO2 staff activity happening right now. Theirs a reason for these cash grab sales.
Theirs a reason for pretty much everything you all is finding wrong here.

And SEGA is playing you all like a Fiddle.

Been playing mmos since Everquest Kunark, from ALL, the different countries who makes them. This is so damn obvious to me that even after seeing whats going on here, that I seen in many other mmos, I still find it friggen hilarious.

Ah well.

I give it a few more months, and all of you will just accept things. Should be another worldly lesson for alot of ya.

yawns welp, back to my single player games while waiting for this to be out. Think ill spend a hundred or two at first, then limit it to maybe 40 a month after. Not really much I want so far. Things I need however, yea, about 30-40 bucks will do.

Heh. So much lulz in this forum.

Even if what you said is true, It becomes counter active to everything that has been said.

If the issue was the community was feeling ignored by the moderators, and now they are posting more frequent, it doesn't mean they weren't reading before. Being a moderator is not easy, from experience I will let you in on a few things. When you log in, it is a job for some, others it is a service. Because this is not a regular forum and instead a company forum I am assuming it is a full fledged Job with pay, etc. That means that they have to log in, and report and moderate on any problems. They are not required to post but moderate. This means they let you do your stuff and intervene when there are issues. Not just issues with posts, but sometimes moving threads to the correct section, deleting offensive things etc. Now, imagine reading hundreds of posts to get the best information you can to report, respond, and follow up. Now also imagine they love the game and are trying to do what is best for the game and have about 1000+ notifications on post, reply's, etc. And for their hard work they get insulted because people assume they aren't doing anything.

Now I can't speak for them or for the company, but if there is a problem and the company is trying to fix it, it is a good thing. Maybe they weren't paying attention before but the effort is now, it is a good thing. People aren't perfect, and you have to respect people trying to change and make things better.

@ERICK001BC said in Suggestion: Please stop trade-locking SG sale items or start bringing the AC scratches for said items so F2P players have more options to obtain them.:

@Alexandrious947 said in Suggestion: Please stop trade-locking SG sale items or start bringing the AC scratches for said items so F2P players have more options to obtain them.:

I just find it hilarious how near everyone posting here does not have a clue whats really going on. Those that do rather not say or post anything cuz it would not be worth explaining it.

So ill just say this.

Theirs a reason why theirs so much GM/MOD/PSO2 staff activity happening right now. Theirs a reason for these cash grab sales.
Theirs a reason for pretty much everything you all is finding wrong here.

And SEGA is playing you all like a Fiddle.

Been playing mmos since Everquest Kunark, from ALL, the different countries who makes them. This is so damn obvious to me that even after seeing whats going on here, that I seen in many other mmos, I still find it friggen hilarious.

Ah well.

I give it a few more months, and all of you will just accept things. Should be another worldly lesson for alot of ya.

yawns welp, back to my single player games while waiting for this to be out. Think ill spend a hundred or two at first, then limit it to maybe 40 a month after. Not really much I want so far. Things I need however, yea, about 30-40 bucks will do.

Heh. So much lulz in this forum.

company is trying to fix it,

🙂 Are they?

@Alexandrious947 said in Suggestion: Please stop trade-locking SG sale items or start bringing the AC scratches for said items so F2P players have more options to obtain them.:

@ERICK001BC said in Suggestion: Please stop trade-locking SG sale items or start bringing the AC scratches for said items so F2P players have more options to obtain them.:

@Alexandrious947 said in Suggestion: Please stop trade-locking SG sale items or start bringing the AC scratches for said items so F2P players have more options to obtain them.:

I just find it hilarious how near everyone posting here does not have a clue whats really going on. Those that do rather not say or post anything cuz it would not be worth explaining it.

So ill just say this.

Theirs a reason why theirs so much GM/MOD/PSO2 staff activity happening right now. Theirs a reason for these cash grab sales.
Theirs a reason for pretty much everything you all is finding wrong here.

And SEGA is playing you all like a Fiddle.

Been playing mmos since Everquest Kunark, from ALL, the different countries who makes them. This is so damn obvious to me that even after seeing whats going on here, that I seen in many other mmos, I still find it friggen hilarious.

Ah well.

I give it a few more months, and all of you will just accept things. Should be another worldly lesson for alot of ya.

yawns welp, back to my single player games while waiting for this to be out. Think ill spend a hundred or two at first, then limit it to maybe 40 a month after. Not really much I want so far. Things I need however, yea, about 30-40 bucks will do.

Heh. So much lulz in this forum.

company is trying to fix it,

🙂 Are they?

Are they not?🙃

@ERICK001BC said in Suggestion: Please stop trade-locking SG sale items or start bringing the AC scratches for said items so F2P players have more options to obtain them.:

@Alexandrious947 said in Suggestion: Please stop trade-locking SG sale items or start bringing the AC scratches for said items so F2P players have more options to obtain them.:

@ERICK001BC said in Suggestion: Please stop trade-locking SG sale items or start bringing the AC scratches for said items so F2P players have more options to obtain them.:

@Alexandrious947 said in Suggestion: Please stop trade-locking SG sale items or start bringing the AC scratches for said items so F2P players have more options to obtain them.:

I just find it hilarious how near everyone posting here does not have a clue whats really going on. Those that do rather not say or post anything cuz it would not be worth explaining it.

So ill just say this.

Theirs a reason why theirs so much GM/MOD/PSO2 staff activity happening right now. Theirs a reason for these cash grab sales.
Theirs a reason for pretty much everything you all is finding wrong here.

And SEGA is playing you all like a Fiddle.

Been playing mmos since Everquest Kunark, from ALL, the different countries who makes them. This is so damn obvious to me that even after seeing whats going on here, that I seen in many other mmos, I still find it friggen hilarious.

Ah well.

I give it a few more months, and all of you will just accept things. Should be another worldly lesson for alot of ya.

yawns welp, back to my single player games while waiting for this to be out. Think ill spend a hundred or two at first, then limit it to maybe 40 a month after. Not really much I want so far. Things I need however, yea, about 30-40 bucks will do.

Heh. So much lulz in this forum.

company is trying to fix it,

🙂 Are they?

Are they not?🙃

Sighs. No, they are not. You do not need a degree in business to figure out whats going on here. I seen this kinda smoke and mirrors before.

But I wont say further on the subject. Its been made apparent on here, PSO2 Facebook and Reddit, that most US/EU Players refuse to listen either to common sense, logic, reasoning or experience.

So ima just enjoy the game, buy the stuff I want, and whistle along while most of you bicker and show off meme/porn art in the lobby.

Have fun kiddos.

@Alexandrious947 said in Suggestion: Please stop trade-locking SG sale items or start bringing the AC scratches for said items so F2P players have more options to obtain them.:

@ERICK001BC said in Suggestion: Please stop trade-locking SG sale items or start bringing the AC scratches for said items so F2P players have more options to obtain them.:

@Alexandrious947 said in Suggestion: Please stop trade-locking SG sale items or start bringing the AC scratches for said items so F2P players have more options to obtain them.:

@ERICK001BC said in Suggestion: Please stop trade-locking SG sale items or start bringing the AC scratches for said items so F2P players have more options to obtain them.:

@Alexandrious947 said in Suggestion: Please stop trade-locking SG sale items or start bringing the AC scratches for said items so F2P players have more options to obtain them.:

I just find it hilarious how near everyone posting here does not have a clue whats really going on. Those that do rather not say or post anything cuz it would not be worth explaining it.

So ill just say this.

Theirs a reason why theirs so much GM/MOD/PSO2 staff activity happening right now. Theirs a reason for these cash grab sales.
Theirs a reason for pretty much everything you all is finding wrong here.

And SEGA is playing you all like a Fiddle.

Been playing mmos since Everquest Kunark, from ALL, the different countries who makes them. This is so damn obvious to me that even after seeing whats going on here, that I seen in many other mmos, I still find it friggen hilarious.

Ah well.

I give it a few more months, and all of you will just accept things. Should be another worldly lesson for alot of ya.

yawns welp, back to my single player games while waiting for this to be out. Think ill spend a hundred or two at first, then limit it to maybe 40 a month after. Not really much I want so far. Things I need however, yea, about 30-40 bucks will do.

Heh. So much lulz in this forum.

company is trying to fix it,

🙂 Are they?

Are they not?🙃

Sighs. No, they are not. You do not need a degree in business to figure out whats going on here. I seen this kinda smoke and mirrors before.

But I wont say further on the subject. Its been made apparent on here, PSO2 Facebook and Reddit, that most US/EU Players refuse to listen either to common sense, logic, reasoning or experience.

So ima just enjoy the game, buy the stuff I want, and whistle along while most of you bicker and show off meme/porn art in the lobby.

Have fun kiddos.

Well, you aren't wrong, other companies have definitely done this multiple times, but again, like you said; it is a company and profit is what their end game is. Just enjoy the game, and that is good advice to players who want to play the game and avoid all the idle lobby stuff.

I really hope they reconsider the item-bounding 😕 In general, the items are way too expensive for how much we can earn and there's so many items that only having such a limited time to save up for them is a huge pain.

@Princesse-Jen said in Suggestion: Please stop trade-locking SG sale items or start bringing the AC scratches for said items so F2P players have more options to obtain them.:

I really hope they reconsider the item-bounding 😕 In general, the items are way too expensive for how much we can earn and there's so many items that only having such a limited time to save up for them is a huge pain.

weekly AC is also killing peoples wallets. I hope they'll go easy and keep it biweekly.