Disgusted by certain players!

@LapisWave said in Disgusted by certain players!:

@Meta77 said in Disgusted by certain players!:

Though it tickles me to be end when people act offended over it. Just move to another lobby.

I think we just went over that "moving to another lobby" is not the best solution, and that it is GM's responsibility to keep to their TOS when they established NA version to remove inappropriate symbol arts. Just moving to another lobby doesn't solve issues. If each lobbies start posting them, you can't move to new block every time someone posts them. Then what, when you are doing an urgent quest and someone spams it, you are going to abandon quest because someone attempted it? No. You'd be reporting it, and you would expect GM to take action ASAP because it is their job and they are getting paid to suspend the players who violate TOS.

And you know what, crusade to swing ban hammer is needed when people can't learn to behave and act like children.

Rofl not me. ive seen some wild symbol art the past few nights. Ive not reported a one. Im just use to all this from jp. After 8 years you just kind of push t to the back your mind and go about your days, in game chats with pals, and runs. But yea if i was bare new then yea i could be seen as scared and confused.

@Meta77 said in Disgusted by certain players!:

@LapisWave said in Disgusted by certain players!:

@Meta77 said in Disgusted by certain players!:

Though it tickles me to be end when people act offended over it. Just move to another lobby.

I think we just went over that "moving to another lobby" is not the best solution, and that it is GM's responsibility to keep to their TOS when they established NA version to remove inappropriate symbol arts. Just moving to another lobby doesn't solve issues. If each lobbies start posting them, you can't move to new block every time someone posts them. Then what, when you are doing an urgent quest and someone spams it, you are going to abandon quest because someone attempted it? No. You'd be reporting it, and you would expect GM to take action ASAP because it is their job and they are getting paid to suspend the players who violate TOS.

And you know what, crusade to swing ban hammer is needed when people can't learn to behave and act like children.

Rofl not me. ive seen some wild symbol art the past few nights. Ive not reported a one. Im just use to all this from jp. After 8 years you just kind of push t to the back your mind and go about your days, in game chats with pals, and runs. But yea if i was bare new then yea i could be seen as scared and confused.

This isn't JP, and also this is NA version with NA TOS. Also, there are more streamers that play NA version than JP players.

People need to understand that this is a completely different community and different identity from JP client , and that there will be different type of people who wont tolerate this behavior. Rather, I always disliked the whole block 1, 7 and 20 back then because of how many inappropriate players were in JP and did their own things because they knew GMs wouldnt touch them.

But in here, I've noticed few people reporting in that they were muted for 24 hours, which is a good start. But needs harsher punishment because they will go back doing bad behaviors again the next day.

well most of the people who post lewd SA in JP are English speakers. So when you get a whole server of them the immaturity multiples.

For me: there is a block function for the SA and on Xbox itself and I have utilized them but so far I have only blocked out the religious fanatic people and the racist (btw they normally are the same people) for me the game is a M for mature and seeing pervy SA does not bother me nor should it really I mean most of them are boobs....they are feeding receptacles...anyway, sega and Xbox has given us the options and tools to deal with what we don’t like and yes it will keep happening, in no way am I saying you should just fall in this is just my opinion about the matter, o and every time I see that SA that says this is a Christian server I BLOCK it please leave IRL religion out of my fantasy games now if the game had a religion of its own that I’m cool with but I play to get away from this craptastic Reality and I would rather not be reminded of it while playing

@Havox3 said in Disgusted by certain players!:

@DkP-Godslayer Too late. You're playing the weeb game, you're already loosely associated with lonely desperate pervos. If your normie friends and relatives catch you playing this, you'll have some explaining to do.

@AnamanaAU said in Disgusted by certain players!:

@Havox3 said in Disgusted by certain players!:

@DkP-Godslayer Too late. You're playing the weeb game, you're already loosely associated with lonely desperate pervos. If your normie friends and relatives catch you playing this, you'll have some explaining to do.

I dunno, man. Being a weeb is pretty normie by todays standards.

^^^^This, TBH.

@DkP-Godslayer said in Disgusted by certain players!:

@Havox3 Yeah I guess you're right there lol. Lots of explaining to do actually, I'm a dude and I play a girl cast. I don't think that 'I played the original as a kid and it's nostalgic' will work will it.

All joking aside, 00s anime like .\Hack normalized this a long time ago. It's pretty much a staple now that many IRL men play female characters to have something nice to look at, while many IRL women play male characters to avoid being harassed.

@John-Paul-RAGE said in Disgusted by certain players!:

@DkP-Godslayer I just wanted to recreate KOS MOS. Then I saw someone did it better, so I retired. My character is still default.

Wow, someone else here enjoyed KOS-MOS from Xenosaga 1-3. Duuuuude ae273513-2311-43c8-b9e0-5e6238751d1f-image.png

@GhrimReeper said in Disgusted by certain players!:

I personally find it funny that some people spent so much time to make certain SAs. Some of them are pretty detailed. That being said I have learned to stay out of the Single Digit blocks if I dont wanna see a bunch of SA spam.

Block 1-2 on Ship 2 of the JP server cluster has that reputation, and is also populated almost exclusively by the english speaking community. With that said, given just how hard creating pornographic imagery is with the symbol art system, some appreciation of the effort isn't out of the question. Better for them to post that stuff on deviant art or pixiv than here, though.

@Meta77 said in Disgusted by certain players!:

@LapisWave said in Disgusted by certain players!:

@Meta77 said in Disgusted by certain players!:

Though it tickles me to be end when people act offended over it. Just move to another lobby.

I think we just went over that "moving to another lobby" is not the best solution, and that it is GM's responsibility to keep to their TOS when they established NA version to remove inappropriate symbol arts. Just moving to another lobby doesn't solve issues. If each lobbies start posting them, you can't move to new block every time someone posts them. Then what, when you are doing an urgent quest and someone spams it, you are going to abandon quest because someone attempted it? No. You'd be reporting it, and you would expect GM to take action ASAP because it is their job and they are getting paid to suspend the players who violate TOS.

And you know what, crusade to swing ban hammer is needed when people can't learn to behave and act like children.

Rofl not me. ive seen some wild symbol art the past few nights. Ive not reported a one. Im just use to all this from jp. After 8 years you just kind of push t to the back your mind and go about your days, in game chats with pals, and runs. But yea if i was bare new then yea i could be seen as scared and confused.

Worth noting that as a result of this Ship 2 became almost exclusively a haven for that spectrum of the English community, many of whom couldn't read the Japanese terms of service. That aside, it's not a question of "being new, scared, and confused," it's a question of violation of terms of service and respecting the rights of others. As someone said so eloquently a few pages back, "your rights end where the rights of others begin." That's as true online as in real life, and here is no exception.

Failure to enforce rules against demeaning behavior and hate speech has real consequences, and hate speech is in no way "free speech." Free speech stops being free speech when it is used to advocate or direct violence against another group for some ascribed characteristic (ethnicity, national origin, etc). By real consequences, I should be rather explicit: There were and are multiple hate-groups actively recruiting on the JP server cluster in PSO2, to the extent that I managed to have a rather unfortunate run in with an actual group of Neo-Nazis who were trying to use the game to normalize their opinions by disguising it as "being edgy."

That attempt to normalize hate-speech and violence can never be tolerated, nor can any behavior which can be reasonably construed as an effort to enable that sort of environment.

I also remind everyone that Microsoft itself has really strict community guidelines. They are pretty much zero tolerance against all bigotry, racism, and involuntary pornographic materials.

It may be beneficial to report them in game for the symbol art and then also report them to Microsoft via their gamertag. It isn't just PSO2's TOS they are breaking, it is also Microsoft's community conduct.

Again report away in game if you want. All im saying is if noting is done then just get over it? Seriously do you know how many kids still drop the N word on me in overwatch. I can report till my hands blue but in the end people are going to do what they do. And pso2 is not going to be some squeaky clean haven unless all you do is sit in a lobby looking to report people. Just play the game. Also yea ship 2 in jp was notorious for some wild things back in the launch lol. Man the amount of shock i went through was insane.

@Vicodin-Villian said in Disgusted by certain players!:

It's pretty much a staple now that many IRL men play female characters to have something nice to look at, while many IRL women play male characters to avoid being harassed.

Tell that to Reki Kawahara, the guy seems to have a hateboner for crossplayers and character customization in general.

Wow, someone else here enjoyed KOS-MOS from Xenosaga 1-3. Duuuuude

You DO know KOS-MOS is basically the face of Xenosaga due to her popularity right?

Better for them to post that stuff on deviant art

DA doesn't allow actual porn, only tasteful nudity.

@Meta77 said in Disgusted by certain players!:

Again report away in game if you want. All im saying is if noting is done then just get over it? Seriously do you know how many kids still drop the N word on me in overwatch. I can report till my hands blue but in the end people are going to do what they do. And pso2 is not going to be some squeaky clean haven unless all you do is sit in a lobby looking to report people. Just play the game. Also yea ship 2 in jp was notorious for some wild things back in the launch lol. Man the amount of shock i went through was insane.

And the response to people spamming racial slurs and such is not to "just get over it". Those people should be banned full stop. If you're incapable of socializing without saying bigoted trash then you don't belong on a social platform.

@Nuebot said in Disgusted by certain players!:

@Meta77 said in Disgusted by certain players!:

Again report away in game if you want. All im saying is if noting is done then just get over it? Seriously do you know how many kids still drop the N word on me in overwatch. I can report till my hands blue but in the end people are going to do what they do. And pso2 is not going to be some squeaky clean haven unless all you do is sit in a lobby looking to report people. Just play the game. Also yea ship 2 in jp was notorious for some wild things back in the launch lol. Man the amount of shock i went through was insane.

And the response to people spamming racial slurs and such is not to "just get over it". Those people should be banned full stop. If you're incapable of socializing without saying bigoted trash then you don't belong on a social platform.

Just a shame they're all on all of them. Except the ones no one uses and the ones with heavy bias towards authoritarian liberalism where they get the shifta banned out of them.

@Nuebot said in Disgusted by certain players!:

@Meta77 said in Disgusted by certain players!:

Again report away in game if you want. All im saying is if noting is done then just get over it? Seriously do you know how many kids still drop the N word on me in overwatch. I can report till my hands blue but in the end people are going to do what they do. And pso2 is not going to be some squeaky clean haven unless all you do is sit in a lobby looking to report people. Just play the game. Also yea ship 2 in jp was notorious for some wild things back in the launch lol. Man the amount of shock i went through was insane.

And the response to people spamming racial slurs and such is not to "just get over it". Those people should be banned full stop. If you're incapable of socializing without saying bigoted trash then you don't belong on a social platform.

Then by all means sit in a lobby and report them. What else do you want done. I shall spend my time running UQs and missions like i always have while seeing SA pop up that every now and again before i drop into another mission or the casino.

@Mattwo7 said in Disgusted by certain players!:

@Vicodin-Villian said in Disgusted by certain players!:

It's pretty much a staple now that many IRL men play female characters to have something nice to look at, while many IRL women play male characters to avoid being harassed.

Tell that to Reki Kawahara, the guy seems to have a hateboner for crossplayers and character customization in general.

That's amusing, because the SAO games in general allow for a fair amount of customization. With specific relation to Kawahara, though, he's very much a traditional-gender-roles guy, and it shows in most of his characters but I haven't seen much with respect to him having a hate-boner for non-irl-gender characters aside from the little bit at the beginning of novel 1/the first few episodes of the anime.

Wow, someone else here enjoyed KOS-MOS from Xenosaga 1-3. Duuuuude

You DO know KOS-MOS is basically the face of Xenosaga due to her popularity right?

Yes, seeing as it was my favorite JRPG series through at least 2006, and that I've owned and played all three games multiple times. I haven't seen her referenced in any major outside work since at least 2012 or before, though. The last one might have been Project X Zone 2 in 2016, but since I'm not really a handheld console gamer, that release completely flew over my head.

Xenosaga as a whole has since been eclipsed by NieR Automata, so it feels like an internet eon since I've seen any discussion, much less mention, of that series.

Better for them to post that stuff on deviant art

DA doesn't allow actual porn, only tasteful nudity.

I'm sorry, I know that's sarcasm but that gave me the best derisive laugh of the night. Deviant Art is chock-full of tasteless and poor quality pornography, usually catering to various sorts of fetishes.

@Vicodin-Villian Well the fetishes is where you get away with it. If they block it as tasteless you can just claim it's kink shaming and boom lmao.

@DkP-Godslayer said in Disgusted by certain players!:

@Vicodin-Villian Well the fetishes is where you get away with it. If they block it as tasteless you can just claim it's kink shaming and boom lmao.

LOL. Deviant art does like to pretend. And then there are the more serious sites like Pixiv (where you can find some of the best fanart around, lewd and otherwise), as well as the various boorus. Suffice it to say that nothing surprises me anymore.

@Vicodin-Villian I mean hey, I'm all about people having their kinks, as long as it's consensual it's cool. But yeah deviant art is a pretentious place and that makes it very funny to me lol.