@Kan said in Concern regarding my choice for Phantom Katana:
@TEN-SQUARE-3 If you talk about endless specifically, its the quest that needs you to improve, not your weapon playstyle. Different stages of endless have different positioning and attacks usage to make the runs fast, that has nothing to do with improving your game as ph rod player since its a very specified content. Also, rockbear is horrible for comparison. Its weak to all elements, has no resistances and is quite ideal target etc. Again, I did not say katana surpasses rod on every stage. Very limited niche cases that it does: example is sodam phase where its weak to katana and not weak to rod.
And I dont get this part of finishing blow. This s5 also gives 2% damage and heals you everytime you sheathe your katana (which is as simple as tap a key). No lifesteal is not a problem. 5% base crit, 50% from tree, 20% from ring, 15% from s6 is 90%. In mpa if you got a techter, thats over 100% idk why you need more than that. If you dont have the s6, 95% isn't low at all. No damage loss here. In a worst case scenario where you have no techter and no s6, you still have about 75% crit rate. I put 75% as my personal benchmark if i want to use precision wills, but if that is unsatisfactory for you, use your secondary weapon of your choice in that situation. Also, this is assuming 250 PP, meanwhile having 280 or even above 300 PP is doable with much ease these days compared to back when ph came out.
I specifically mentioned UH for katana mobbing so endless is instantly disqualified from the list. And if your best argument to that is "Look at clips of other people playing it" you really need to try it out for yourself. And I assure you, gizonde is much better at mobbing than those 2. Their radius is small, they are a lot slower and gigrants in particular has high pp cost. The only upside being that rabarta gives you more focus gauge to prepare for any boss spawns.
My comparison for focus gauge build up was for bosses specifically. I am relatively new to rifle so I'm not experienced with rifle's focus gauge build up but I can confidently say that I manage to pop out 3-4 ph times on persona UH on katana compared to 2-3 times on rod. (Since Persona, I started utilizing both rod and katana in my rotations so I dont have comparisons for updated bosses like tpd)
While that is true about endless, it also teaches you a lot about you’re class and play style, and how to manage a whole bunch of things, and teaches you how to has efficient and fast as possible in a multitude of scenarios, and does very much make you a better player in normal content too.
Yeah I went back to edit the bit about he 2% I realised after I posted that finishing blow had that, but you saw it before I edited it. Not having 100% crit is kind of a big deal on phantom and needing a techter in the mpa is definitely not idea. Just between your ring and your skill tree that an 8% loss in damage every time you don’t land a crit hit, and that’s without any S augs you might have that go of critical hits. So every time you miss a crit hit that’s a lot to lose, especially it that’s fall on a marker detonation which is very slow to build on a katana and starts to add up on tankier enemies.
So for you to run finishing blow with a 75% crit rate has per your base rate, and using precision will which is another 9%, that means that 25% of your hits are going to be missing out on 17% damage. Which in general content isn’t game breaking but don’t you see where the katana is starting to fall short compared to the rod here, and even the rifle has it doesn’t have this issue either. Plus with finishing blow you are forever stopping yourself from using the petal and precise balance build that allows you to build a weapons with 28% extra damage built into including phrase decay. Which is very strong against bosses.
I only play phantom these days so I have tried it out, and the reason I pointed out other people’s runs is because endless isn’t just special stage orders like break enemy parts or get kills from behind, theirs plenty of times where you are just straight out dps the mobs, plus all the videos on UH runs, and if katana really did match rod and rifle in mobbing people would be using it, cause the fastest runs people use whatever is then best for that specific situation, but no one does.
Rabarta and gigrants generally out damages gizonde, I’ve played techs since I first started playing phantom, has I switched from force, and I very quickly realised gizonde wasn’t like it is on force, it still has its uses but you are definitely going to ben using your other techs a lot. If you think rababrta is slow then you’re probably using the wrong craft for it, you want the one that reduces the intervals.
It’s hard to judge without knowing how fast the run was against persona, I never managed 3 with any weapon against him, but when my alliance was doing it we were generally killing him pretty quickly. But in general for rod the fastest way to build gear against him, is to cast your shifted mass and Ramegid zero whenever he’s out of range and cutscenes. A combination of rababrta and llbarta when he’s weak to ice, use mass on stun phases, counter whenever possible, nagrants has he loads into his final phase and grants and llgrants the rest of the time. Plus the more points you have in lord of thorns the slower your gear accumulation is as well.