They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?

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@Astral-Lettie said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ren6617 said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ashe-Kinsilla said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ren6617 said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@ZarexWolf said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

Honestly, it would entice people to buy premium more if it included the material storage.

This 10000x

Premium is worthless right now and these pay to win gachas are cancer. It's like sega hates its player base

Why is the ac scratches in PSO2 considered P2W by you? Do they give you +stats when you wear outfits? Do they have set bonuses if you wear the same layers together? If you feel sega hates its player base... Why are you staying in this abusive relationship with them?

@Astral Lettie 8 year old game with 8 year old problems 😞

Bruhhhh, have you EVEN LOOKED AT THE GACHAS? It's not just pay to win, it's abusively pay to win.

Right now S augs worth hundreds of millions can be bought from the ac recycle. SUPPORT GACHA: only way to affix certain things... You cannot trade then and have to spend $120 to get the Exceed one.

Look at the Divine affix giving +10 pp +50 atk and tell me it's ok for this p2w that can't even be traded. 1 PP is worth 10 attack, easily.

Not to mention, this limited recycle shop DOUBLED RECYCLE BADGE PRICES

You clearly don't know how pay to win works, nothing in this game is pay to win,

Pay to win would mean the rev, trail blazeer weapons, etc would be in the scratches. You want pay to win, go try black desert online or genshin impact. You can use MESETA to buy the scratch items and even then, you can easily do without them.

May want to research how pay to win works.

Pay to win is when free players can't have the things that free players can. Pay to win is the argument that games were better when there was a sub and no microtrans. Pay to win is when a game uses abusive psychology to encourage overspending. PSO2 meets all these criteria. Just because it's not Forsaken World where the abuse is 1000x higher than even the two games you mentioned, doesn't mean that it's not p2w or psychologically abusive. Pay to win is pay to win, period.

I'll take the f***ing sub every time. Now go troll someone your own power level, lmao.

Nope, you are completely ignorant on pay to win and how it works. don't get mad because you are flat out wrong, and no, someone telling you how it works isn't a "troll" get off your high horse. like i said, use google and what is left of your brain to try and learn.

This game is not pay to win, Period. You'll have to get over it. Your problem is you're confusing predatory microtransactions with pay to win, 2 different things.

@Astral-Lettie said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ren6617 said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Astral-Lettie said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ren6617 said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ashe-Kinsilla said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ren6617 said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@ZarexWolf said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

Honestly, it would entice people to buy premium more if it included the material storage.

This 10000x

Premium is worthless right now and these pay to win gachas are cancer. It's like sega hates its player base

Why is the ac scratches in PSO2 considered P2W by you? Do they give you +stats when you wear outfits? Do they have set bonuses if you wear the same layers together? If you feel sega hates its player base... Why are you staying in this abusive relationship with them?

@Astral Lettie 8 year old game with 8 year old problems 😞

Bruhhhh, have you EVEN LOOKED AT THE GACHAS? It's not just pay to win, it's abusively pay to win.

Right now S augs worth hundreds of millions can be bought from the ac recycle. SUPPORT GACHA: only way to affix certain things... You cannot trade then and have to spend $120 to get the Exceed one.

Look at the Divine affix giving +10 pp +50 atk and tell me it's ok for this p2w that can't even be traded. 1 PP is worth 10 attack, easily.

Not to mention, this limited recycle shop DOUBLED RECYCLE BADGE PRICES

You clearly don't know how pay to win works, nothing in this game is pay to win,

Pay to win would mean the rev, trail blazeer weapons, etc would be in the scratches. You want pay to win, go try black desert online or genshin impact. You can use MESETA to buy the scratch items and even then, you can easily do without them.

May want to research how pay to win works.

Pay to win is when free players can't have the things that free players can. Pay to win is the argument that games were better when there was a sub and no microtrans. Pay to win is when a game uses abusive psychology to encourage overspending. PSO2 meets all these criteria. Just because it's not Forsaken World where the abuse is 1000x higher than even the two games you mentioned, doesn't mean that it's not p2w or psychologically abusive. Pay to win is pay to win, period.

I'll take the f***ing sub every time. Now go troll someone your own power level, lmao.

Nope, you are completely ignorant on pay to win and how it works. don't get mad because you are flat out wrong, and no, someone telling you how it works isn't a "troll" get off your high horse. like i said, use google and what is left of your brain to try and learn.

This game is not pay to win, Period. You'll have to get over it.

Just because you don't NEED that extra affix which is worth the statts of 3 affixes rolled into one, does not make it any less pay to win. If it was part of the game, you could at least trade it. There is no excuse for binding it (nor forcing people to spend $120 to get it)

@Astral-Lettie said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ren6617 said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Astral-Lettie said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ren6617 said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ashe-Kinsilla said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ren6617 said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@ZarexWolf said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

Honestly, it would entice people to buy premium more if it included the material storage.

This 10000x

Premium is worthless right now and these pay to win gachas are cancer. It's like sega hates its player base

Why is the ac scratches in PSO2 considered P2W by you? Do they give you +stats when you wear outfits? Do they have set bonuses if you wear the same layers together? If you feel sega hates its player base... Why are you staying in this abusive relationship with them?

@Astral Lettie 8 year old game with 8 year old problems 😞

Bruhhhh, have you EVEN LOOKED AT THE GACHAS? It's not just pay to win, it's abusively pay to win.

Right now S augs worth hundreds of millions can be bought from the ac recycle. SUPPORT GACHA: only way to affix certain things... You cannot trade then and have to spend $120 to get the Exceed one.

Look at the Divine affix giving +10 pp +50 atk and tell me it's ok for this p2w that can't even be traded. 1 PP is worth 10 attack, easily.

Not to mention, this limited recycle shop DOUBLED RECYCLE BADGE PRICES

You clearly don't know how pay to win works, nothing in this game is pay to win,

Pay to win would mean the rev, trail blazeer weapons, etc would be in the scratches. You want pay to win, go try black desert online or genshin impact. You can use MESETA to buy the scratch items and even then, you can easily do without them.

May want to research how pay to win works.

Pay to win is when free players can't have the things that free players can. Pay to win is the argument that games were better when there was a sub and no microtrans. Pay to win is when a game uses abusive psychology to encourage overspending. PSO2 meets all these criteria. Just because it's not Forsaken World where the abuse is 1000x higher than even the two games you mentioned, doesn't mean that it's not p2w or psychologically abusive. Pay to win is pay to win, period.

I'll take the f***ing sub every time. Now go troll someone your own power level, lmao.

Nope, you are completely ignorant on pay to win and how it works. don't get mad because you are flat out wrong, and no, someone telling you how it works isn't a "troll" get off your high horse. like i said, use google and what is left of your brain to try and learn.

This game is not pay to win, Period. You'll have to get over it. Your problem is you're confusing predatory microtransactions with pay to win, 2 different things.

Also, you clearly didn't play Forsaken World. Element mastery costed like $20,000 each and hugely impacts your damage. Yes, I understand P2W... that game was still more p2w than any you listed. Defense masteries also costed a fortune, like 5000 each or something?

The only tradeable currency generator was the cash shop. There was a weekly you could do, but the gold was low.

@Ren6617 said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Astral-Lettie said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ren6617 said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Astral-Lettie said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ren6617 said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ashe-Kinsilla said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ren6617 said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@ZarexWolf said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

Honestly, it would entice people to buy premium more if it included the material storage.

This 10000x

Premium is worthless right now and these pay to win gachas are cancer. It's like sega hates its player base

Why is the ac scratches in PSO2 considered P2W by you? Do they give you +stats when you wear outfits? Do they have set bonuses if you wear the same layers together? If you feel sega hates its player base... Why are you staying in this abusive relationship with them?

@Astral Lettie 8 year old game with 8 year old problems 😞

Bruhhhh, have you EVEN LOOKED AT THE GACHAS? It's not just pay to win, it's abusively pay to win.

Right now S augs worth hundreds of millions can be bought from the ac recycle. SUPPORT GACHA: only way to affix certain things... You cannot trade then and have to spend $120 to get the Exceed one.

Look at the Divine affix giving +10 pp +50 atk and tell me it's ok for this p2w that can't even be traded. 1 PP is worth 10 attack, easily.

Not to mention, this limited recycle shop DOUBLED RECYCLE BADGE PRICES

You clearly don't know how pay to win works, nothing in this game is pay to win,

Pay to win would mean the rev, trail blazeer weapons, etc would be in the scratches. You want pay to win, go try black desert online or genshin impact. You can use MESETA to buy the scratch items and even then, you can easily do without them.

May want to research how pay to win works.

Pay to win is when free players can't have the things that free players can. Pay to win is the argument that games were better when there was a sub and no microtrans. Pay to win is when a game uses abusive psychology to encourage overspending. PSO2 meets all these criteria. Just because it's not Forsaken World where the abuse is 1000x higher than even the two games you mentioned, doesn't mean that it's not p2w or psychologically abusive. Pay to win is pay to win, period.

I'll take the f***ing sub every time. Now go troll someone your own power level, lmao.

Nope, you are completely ignorant on pay to win and how it works. don't get mad because you are flat out wrong, and no, someone telling you how it works isn't a "troll" get off your high horse. like i said, use google and what is left of your brain to try and learn.

This game is not pay to win, Period. You'll have to get over it.

Just because you don't NEED that extra affix which is worth the statts of 3 affixes rolled into one, does not make it any less pay to win. If it was part of the game, you could at least trade it. There is no excuse for binding it (nor forcing people to spend $120 to get it)

Not pay to win though. and no, you don't need it, nor are you forced to spend, considering you can actually find and earn good affixes.

We can do this all day but i'd rather not. You can scream it as loud as you want and lie to your self all day, nothing in here is pay to win unless you can show me the strongest weapons/units in the game costing real money only.

We're done, because I'm not going through this back and forth with someone who chooses to be ignorant.

Divine Receptor can be purchased at Meseta.

@Astral-Lettie said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ren6617 said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Astral-Lettie said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ren6617 said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Astral-Lettie said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ren6617 said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ashe-Kinsilla said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ren6617 said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@ZarexWolf said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

Honestly, it would entice people to buy premium more if it included the material storage.

This 10000x

Premium is worthless right now and these pay to win gachas are cancer. It's like sega hates its player base

Why is the ac scratches in PSO2 considered P2W by you? Do they give you +stats when you wear outfits? Do they have set bonuses if you wear the same layers together? If you feel sega hates its player base... Why are you staying in this abusive relationship with them?

@Astral Lettie 8 year old game with 8 year old problems 😞

Bruhhhh, have you EVEN LOOKED AT THE GACHAS? It's not just pay to win, it's abusively pay to win.

Right now S augs worth hundreds of millions can be bought from the ac recycle. SUPPORT GACHA: only way to affix certain things... You cannot trade then and have to spend $120 to get the Exceed one.

Look at the Divine affix giving +10 pp +50 atk and tell me it's ok for this p2w that can't even be traded. 1 PP is worth 10 attack, easily.

Not to mention, this limited recycle shop DOUBLED RECYCLE BADGE PRICES

You clearly don't know how pay to win works, nothing in this game is pay to win,

Pay to win would mean the rev, trail blazeer weapons, etc would be in the scratches. You want pay to win, go try black desert online or genshin impact. You can use MESETA to buy the scratch items and even then, you can easily do without them.

May want to research how pay to win works.

Pay to win is when free players can't have the things that free players can. Pay to win is the argument that games were better when there was a sub and no microtrans. Pay to win is when a game uses abusive psychology to encourage overspending. PSO2 meets all these criteria. Just because it's not Forsaken World where the abuse is 1000x higher than even the two games you mentioned, doesn't mean that it's not p2w or psychologically abusive. Pay to win is pay to win, period.

I'll take the f***ing sub every time. Now go troll someone your own power level, lmao.

Nope, you are completely ignorant on pay to win and how it works. don't get mad because you are flat out wrong, and no, someone telling you how it works isn't a "troll" get off your high horse. like i said, use google and what is left of your brain to try and learn.

This game is not pay to win, Period. You'll have to get over it.

Just because you don't NEED that extra affix which is worth the statts of 3 affixes rolled into one, does not make it any less pay to win. If it was part of the game, you could at least trade it. There is no excuse for binding it (nor forcing people to spend $120 to get it)

Not pay to win though. and no, you don't need it, nor are you forced to spend, considering you can actually find and earn good affixes.

We can do this all day but i'd rather not. You can scream it as loud as you want and lie to your self all day, nothing in here is pay to win unless you can show me the strongest weapons/units in the game costing real money only.

We're done, because I'm not going through this back and forth with someone who chooses to be ignorant.

We're done because you're a troll. Weapons add more attack, and without the best affix on the best weapon, your weapon is no longer "the best weapon". Sorry, bro!troll.png

Remember kids, less p2w still equals p2w!

Gotta love imbeciles "i can't refute your argument, therefore you're a troll"

You want to spend this time attempting to learn how pay to win works, instead of slobbering at the mouth because you hate being wrong.

@Astral-Lettie said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

Gotta love imbeciles "i can't refute your argument, therefore you're a troll"

You want to spend this time attempting to learn how pay to win works, instead of slobbering at the mouth because you hate being wrong.

Defending a universally hated tactic (psychological abuse and promotion of gambling) in most post-2010 games most definitely makes you a troll, or someone who probably has a vested interest in these practices not being banned.

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@Ren6617 said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Astral-Lettie said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

Gotta love imbeciles "i can't refute your argument, therefore you're a troll"

You want to spend this time attempting to learn how pay to win works, instead of slobbering at the mouth because you hate being wrong.

Defending a universally hated tactic (psychological abuse and promotion of gambling) in most post-2010 games most definitely makes you a troll, or someone who probably has a vested interest in these practices not being banned.

See, that's how i know you aren't the brightest bulb and just wanted to argue, i wasn't defending any of that, i was attempting to teach you that this game isn't pay 2 win, which it isn't in case you still haven't figured that out you seem to just read what you want. and actually proving to BE the troll yourself. so we can add hypocrite alongside ignorant on your resume.

Stop talking already, better yet, I'll just ignore/block you, these few posts of yours have shown me that you aren't someone worth reading or engaging with in the future, Not sure why your parents allowed you to be on the net talking nonsense unsupervised anyway.

Also on the last note, as this is something low IQ people love doing on the internet, is that disagreeing with someone or they call you out does not make them a "troll" this is yet another lesson you'll have to learn, Hopefully, you can actually retain all that information. it may be difficult for you though. but hang in there.

@Ren6617 said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

Also, you clearly didn't play Forsaken World. Element mastery costed like $20,000 each and hugely impacts your damage. Yes, I understand P2W... that game was still more p2w than any you listed. Defense masteries also costed a fortune, like 5000 each or something?

The only tradeable currency generator was the cash shop. There was a weekly you could do, but the gold was low.

What in the world? I think no one played forsaken world because we saw it was P2W and didnt want to keep going with it. I don't see a mastery+resistance system, gear refining, gear reforging, runes, the shop-only unique trinkets with bonus stats, extra stats from fashion IDs in pso2

stop being a "troll"

@Ashe-Kinsilla He was throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks, I never heard of that game either, and sure as hell would have not even bothered if it's what you described. but you're wasting your time, and you'll be labeled a troll now because you didn't agree with him.

Just let him sit in his own delusional world. One of the reasons i even play this game is because it ISN'T pay to win. so that whole process had me laughing.

@Astral-Lettie said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Ren6617 said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

@Astral-Lettie said in They really need to just start bundling Material Storage in with the Premium Pass. Is there a reliable and consistent way to grind at least 300 SG a month?:

Gotta love imbeciles "i can't refute your argument, therefore you're a troll"

You want to spend this time attempting to learn how pay to win works, instead of slobbering at the mouth because you hate being wrong.

Defending a universally hated tactic (psychological abuse and promotion of gambling) in most post-2010 games most definitely makes you a troll, or someone who probably has a vested interest in these practices not being banned.

See, that's how i know you aren't the brightest bulb and just wanted to argue, i wasn't defending any of that, i was attempting to teach you that this game isn't pay 2 win, which it isn't in case you still haven't figured that out you seem to just read what you want. and actually proving to BE the troll yourself. so we can add hypocrite alongside ignorant on your resume.

Stop talking already, better yet, I'll just ignore/block you, these few posts of yours have shown me that you aren't someone worth reading or engaging with in the future, Not sure why your parents allowed you to be on the net talking nonsense unsupervised anyway.

Also on the last note, as this is something low IQ people love doing on the internet, is that disagreeing with someone or they call you out does not make them a "troll" this is yet another lesson you'll have to learn, Hopefully, you can actually retain all that information. it may be difficult for you though. but hang in there.

I feel the same way about you, but since I'm not eternally buttmad over trivial things, and blocking people hides shops including yours from them, I won't be blocking anyone. :galaxybrain:

Your missing the point of Pay to win means I can BUY a better weapon that will allow me to beat you. You can play for FREE and giving us FREE atlas rivalate and the units is Pay to win. What planet you guys on ????